The Sun - Ummah used to compile hit-list of British Jews

Ali Abdullah · 07-01-2009, 02:37 AM

The paranoia is taking off. The Sun claims that Ummah.Com is being used to compile a hit list of British Jews including Alan Sugar. This sort of story does not help community relations one bit.

saladin1970.5 · 07-01-2009, 02:48 AM

Yes,
these forums are monitered.
you may want to check as many posts on this forum as well as the list of the top jewish activists is on here as well

make sure there are NO reference to any criminal activity.

I know for a fact that NONE of my posts called for any criminal activty, just the marginalization of these activists in their support of israel and their attacks on muslims

Ali Abdullah · 07-01-2009, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saladin1970.5

make sure there are NO reference to any criminal activity.

Yes, think before you type! The Zionists and Neocons are looking for any excuse to shut down groups like MPACUK and it mustn't be given to them.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2103995.ece

saladin1970.5 · 07-01-2009, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali Abdullah

Yes, think before you type! The Zionists and Neocons are looking for any excuse to shut down groups like MPACUK and it mustn't be given to them.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2103995.ece

ask the moderators to check through any posts with the links to the jewish top 100 and make sure there are no illegal threats etc.

CANTANATRIX · 07-01-2009, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saladin1970.5

ask the moderators to check through any posts with the links to the jewish top 100 and make sure there are no illegal threats etc.

Such as the one saying that all Jews are murderous coniving scum and should be driven into the sea?

yes I see that one has been deleted. Unfortunately Sal for the rest of us your racist views on Jews have already been clearly displayed-and its people such as yourself that make sites such as this look extremist.

Whereas most people here are looking at legitimate ways of protesting Israels unjustified and inhumane military action in Gaza that has left hundreds of innocent people dead out of a feeling of brotherhood and human empathy for the Gazans plight, your true motivation- racist hatred has been duly noted.

Basically if sites such as MPACUK are to avoid unflattering attacks in the media, not having members that call for the genocide of Jews would be a start eh?

saladin1970.5 · 07-01-2009, 03:58 AM

it was retracted.
Calling for for the fluffy zionist murderers to be driven into the sea. was wrong. they should all be exiled to siberia

CANTANATRIX · 07-01-2009, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saladin1970.5

it was retracted.
Calling for for the fluffy zionist murderers to be driven into the sea. was wrong. they should all be exiled to siberia

So you consider all Jews to be "zionist murderers" ?

saladin1970.5 · 07-01-2009, 04:39 AM

go away you idiot.

saladin1970.5 · 07-01-2009, 04:40 AM

Lol i am loving this . This is the bafoon who gave the story to the sun

http://www.hizb.org.uk/hizb/resource...l-exposed.html

On Tuesday 14th November the BBC aired reports on BBC File on 4 and BBC Newsnight concerning 'radicalisation' in the Muslim community in the UK. It relied heavily on the work of a previously unknown shadowy and underground organisation, "Vigil". Vigil's website has little information but does talk of the origin of the parent organisation, "Back in 1991, a young-man from a far-off country came to the Western-Sahara desert to meet with a group of people. They formed an alliance to establish a global network to form an army to fight the Evil-World to come and to serve for the glory of Jerusalem, the city of GOD!"

The two members of Vigil featured in a piece for Newsnight were Glen Jenvey and Dominic Whiteman. It is not clear whether these are their real names, but it is likely that these shadowy individuals hide their real identities.

On Newsnight, allegations of criminality were made against Hizb ut-Tahrir, based on an interview with a source called "J" who was provided to the BBC by Vigil. The BBC did not scrutinise whether Vigil was a credible organisation but merely took Vigil's word as to the veracity of J's testimony on the programme. Vigil was presented as a reliable and committed organisation of ex-military and ex-intelligence staff who are committed to fighting the 'war on terror'.

An article about Vigil in the Sunday Telegraph on 19th November 2006, said, "The organisation seeks to make Britain a safer place by disrupting and exposing terrorist activity. It is also working with media groups to highlight the threat from Muslim extremists. Last week it teamed up with BBC2's Newsnight and Radio 4's File on 4…The group says it is non-political and non-religious." In the article, Scotland Yard confirmed it was "working closely with Vigil, particularly its director and spokesman who has made officers aware of chat-room material. This material will be considered and appropriate action taken."

saladin1970.5 · 07-01-2009, 04:43 AM

and this is an interview with his daughter who converted to Islam, and whose conversion has been the reason behind his work, which includes
a) filming abu hamza to get him locked behind bars
b) having izi uddin arrested
c) behind the mosque documentaries on newsnight

In this interview, his daughter claims he made it all up about working for the secret service in sri lanka etc.

She also claims he had a homosexual affair with a vicar
http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:...efox-a&strip=1

saladin1970.5 · 07-01-2009, 04:48 AM

and it was also this nutter that tried to get Cat stevens labelled as a terrorist

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/185328.php

The Jawa Report has obtained evidence that Yusuf Islam, the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens, was once connected to radical clerics Omar Bakri Mohammed & Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman. According to at least one credible source, he was also involved in terrorist financing.
In an online voice chat from exile in Lebanon where he fled after British authorities banned several groups connected to him, Bakri told followers that various prominent Muslims would once frequent his office. Among those listed is Cat Stevens.
Bakri Mohammed has urged Muslims in the U.K. to fight British troops in Iraq and elsewhere, justified the 7/7 London bombings, and has publicly called for the murder of all who blaspheme the Muslim prophet Muhammed. Several followers of Bakri Mohammed have been arrested for their public calls for the murder of blasphemers. At least one has been recently been convicted.
The online chat was captured by Glen Jenvey who is part of an organization that secretly monitors the activities of radical Muslims who support terrorism. Jenvey, who we have worked with in the past and who has helped convict several high profile terror supporters, contacted The Jawa Report about the recorded conversation shortly after he captured it. The audio recording was made in what Bakri Mohammed believed was a private chat between himself and his radical followers.

saladin1970.5 · 07-01-2009, 04:56 AM

He was also behind this sensational headline

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2085413.ece

The guy is an out and out nutter .

Will sleep on it, and work out how to make sure he no journalist (not even the sun ) looks at him in a serious light again

Probably worth contacting his daughter and let her know how mad he has gone. Cat stevens, lol

CANTANATRIX · 07-01-2009, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saladin1970.5

go away you idiot.

Real charming.

Sorry but I don`t tolerate racism, especially when it is detracting from highlighting the Israeli governments indisciminate campaign in Gaza.

When people such as yourself come out with moronic racist suggestions like driving all Jews into the sea and also see you attacking Israeli actions they put two and two together and assume that all Israel is doing is fighting against people who think such as yourself.

In short, racist hatred such as you have displayed is what gives Israel the justification it needs to have its way in Gaza vis a vis the media.

Media outlets just have to surf the net to see comments such as yours and publish them-and then it appears that critics of Israel are racist fools who hate Jews.

Thus all Israeli government spokesmen and supporters have to do is point to articles such as are written in the sun and go-look, those that are against Israel are people such as these-see what we are fighting against?

CANTANATRIX · 07-01-2009, 05:06 AM

And so all the legitimate effort against the Israeli governments actions in Gaza falls by the wayside because amongst them are racists such as yourself.

Organisations like MPACUK need to make it clear that racism is not tolerated in any form and distance themsleves from any racists and racist remarks, and thus avoid being targetted by the media and painted with a blackened brush; and so these organisations can continue to legitimately highlight Israels hyocritical actions in Gaza.

saladin1970.5 · 07-01-2009, 05:21 AM

this is the website and organisation that this nutter who tried to get Cat Stevens arrested for terrorism

http://www.vigilnetwork.com/aboutus.php

Ali Abdullah · 07-01-2009, 09:12 AM

It should come as no surprise that the Daily Mail and the Daily Express have picked up on the story:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-website.html

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/...or-extremists-

irfan · 07-01-2009, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saladin1970.5

ask the moderators to check through any posts with the links to the jewish top 100 and make sure there are no illegal threats etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by saladin1970.5

make sure there are NO reference to any criminal activity.

How about people don't make illegal threats or encourage criminal activity?

We can start by getting over this idea that just because someone is a Jew they love Israel and everything it does.

I realise no-one made threats against any Jews on Ummah forum but there is an attitude that doesn't differentiate enough between Zionism and Judaism. It's this failure of comprehension that leads tabloids and idiot "experts" to make these kinds of accusations of anti-Semitism against Muslims.

irfan · 07-01-2009, 12:16 PM

Now. Lets laugh at this sorry affair...

Quote:

Ronson: Blair Outraged

ALAN Sugar is on a “Hit List” of prominent UK Jews to be offed by Islamists. So says the Sun, which leads with “TERROR TARGET SUGAR”.

Given Sugar’s beard, his “You’re fired” catchprase on The Apprentice and gruff demeanour, on reading the headline Anorak supposed Sugar was being less targeted than wooed by the new brown shirts to overhaul their recruitment policy.

Reading on, the Sun talks of “fears” that a list is being drawn up, and that the one who fears most is “British anti-terror expert Glen Jenvey”. He “is convinced online forum Ummah is being used to prepare a deadly backlash against UK Jews”.

On the Ummah site, “Saladin1970” asks for help compiling “a list of those who support Israel”.
“Abuislam” asks: “Have we got a list of top Jews we can target? Can someone post names and addresses?”

Names given include: Sugar, DJ Mark Ronson, Foreign Secretary David Miliband and Amy Winehouse. That’s a real kick in the teeth to the likes of Alan Yentob, the BBC bigwig who must have fancied himself to be a target.

And what of Lucian Freud, Nicole Farhi, Vidal Sassoon, Martin Sorrell (who’s doing his PR?), Rachel Weisz, Stephen Fry and dear Lionel Blair?

How many leading Jews are right now calling the agents demanding to know why their profile is so low that not even a nutter looking for a soft target does not want to attack them?

Has not Andrew Sachs suffered enough? How Dani Behr must kick herself (yeah, Saladin 1970, she’ll save you the bother) for not being more popular on I’m A Celebrity. Sacha Baron Cohen – they think Ali G is real and the Jewish part is the act. Leading British actor Anthony Sher – they’ve never heard of you! Gavin Rossdale of pop band Bush – who he?

It might also be comfort for the plotters to know that Barry Cryer is not a Jew. Neither is Apprentice agonist Michael Sophocles, who claims to being a nice Jewish boy turned out to be wrong on at least two counts. Other non-Jews who may be mistaken:

Prince Charles – not a Jew. Mohamed Al Fayed – not a Jew. Rosemary West – not a Jew.

And some who might be:

Tony Blair, Omar Bakri, the man who invented call centre technology, anyone who says “let’s touch base” and Westminster council traffic warden 678A9.

Addresses on application…

http://www.anorak.co.uk/media/199446.html

Musab · 07-01-2009, 01:12 PM

What a nutcase.

If you guys want to word a letter supporting ummah, we can get this up on the website.

This is just a campaign of intimidation against any muslim website that does not do as they say.

do not be intimidated.

Musab · 07-01-2009, 01:24 PM

Actually i'm pretty dissapointed the ummah got blamed and not us. Anyone who irks israeli stooges is doing something right.

07-01-2009, 02:37 AM	#1
Ali Abdullah Veteran Campaigner Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,368 Rep Power: 121	The Sun - Ummah used to compile hit-list of British Jews The paranoia is taking off. The Sun claims that Ummah.Com is being used to compile a hit list of British Jews including Alan Sugar. This sort of story does not help community relations one bit.

07-01-2009, 04:40 AM	#9
saladin1970.5 Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	The man behind the sun headlines Lol i am loving this . This is the bafoon who gave the story to the sun http://www.hizb.org.uk/hizb/resource...l-exposed.html On Tuesday 14th November the BBC aired reports on BBC File on 4 and BBC Newsnight concerning 'radicalisation' in the Muslim community in the UK. It relied heavily on the work of a previously unknown shadowy and underground organisation, "Vigil". Vigil's website has little information but does talk of the origin of the parent organisation, "Back in 1991, a young-man from a far-off country came to the Western-Sahara desert to meet with a group of people. They formed an alliance to establish a global network to form an army to fight the Evil-World to come and to serve for the glory of Jerusalem, the city of GOD!" The two members of Vigil featured in a piece for Newsnight were Glen Jenvey and Dominic Whiteman. It is not clear whether these are their real names, but it is likely that these shadowy individuals hide their real identities. On Newsnight, allegations of criminality were made against Hizb ut-Tahrir, based on an interview with a source called "J" who was provided to the BBC by Vigil. The BBC did not scrutinise whether Vigil was a credible organisation but merely took Vigil's word as to the veracity of J's testimony on the programme. Vigil was presented as a reliable and committed organisation of ex-military and ex-intelligence staff who are committed to fighting the 'war on terror'. An article about Vigil in the Sunday Telegraph on 19th November 2006, said, "The organisation seeks to make Britain a safer place by disrupting and exposing terrorist activity. It is also working with media groups to highlight the threat from Muslim extremists. Last week it teamed up with BBC2's Newsnight and Radio 4's File on 4…The group says it is non-political and non-religious." In the article, Scotland Yard confirmed it was "working closely with Vigil, particularly its director and spokesman who has made officers aware of chat-room material. This material will be considered and appropriate action taken."

07-01-2009, 04:48 AM	#11
saladin1970.5 Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	the man behind the cat stevens terror campaign and it was also this nutter that tried to get Cat stevens labelled as a terrorist http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/185328.php The Jawa Report has obtained evidence that Yusuf Islam, the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens, was once connected to radical clerics Omar Bakri Mohammed & Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman. According to at least one credible source, he was also involved in terrorist financing. In an online voice chat from exile in Lebanon where he fled after British authorities banned several groups connected to him, Bakri told followers that various prominent Muslims would once frequent his office. Among those listed is Cat Stevens. Bakri Mohammed has urged Muslims in the U.K. to fight British troops in Iraq and elsewhere, justified the 7/7 London bombings, and has publicly called for the murder of all who blaspheme the Muslim prophet Muhammed. Several followers of Bakri Mohammed have been arrested for their public calls for the murder of blasphemers. At least one has been recently been convicted. The online chat was captured by Glen Jenvey who is part of an organization that secretly monitors the activities of radical Muslims who support terrorism. Jenvey, who we have worked with in the past and who has helped convict several high profile terror supporters, contacted The Jawa Report about the recorded conversation shortly after he captured it. The audio recording was made in what Bakri Mohammed believed was a private chat between himself and his radical followers.

07-01-2009, 04:56 AM	#12
saladin1970.5 Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	more of this guys handy work He was also behind this sensational headline http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2085413.ece The guy is an out and out nutter . Will sleep on it, and work out how to make sure he no journalist (not even the sun ) looks at him in a serious light again Probably worth contacting his daughter and let her know how mad he has gone. Cat stevens, lol

07-01-2009, 05:06 AM	#14
CANTANATRIX Dango addict Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: odawara-shi, kanagawa-ken, Nihon. Posts: 2,412 Rep Power: 41	And so all the legitimate effort against the Israeli governments actions in Gaza falls by the wayside because amongst them are racists such as yourself. Organisations like MPACUK need to make it clear that racism is not tolerated in any form and distance themsleves from any racists and racist remarks, and thus avoid being targetted by the media and painted with a blackened brush; and so these organisations can continue to legitimately highlight Israels hyocritical actions in Gaza. __________________ I do not consider it an insult, but rather a compliment to be called an agnostic. I do not pretend to know where many ignorant men are sure-that is all that agnosticism means. Clarence Darrow Last edited by CANTANATRIX; 07-01-2009 at 05:16 AM.

07-01-2009, 02:48 AM	#2
saladin1970.5 Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	Yes, these forums are monitered. you may want to check as many posts on this forum as well as the list of the top jewish activists is on here as well make sure there are NO reference to any criminal activity. I know for a fact that NONE of my posts called for any criminal activty, just the marginalization of these activists in their support of israel and their attacks on muslims

07-01-2009, 03:58 AM	#6
saladin1970.5 Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	it was retracted. Calling for for the fluffy zionist murderers to be driven into the sea. was wrong. they should all be exiled to siberia

07-01-2009, 04:39 AM	#8
saladin1970.5 Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	go away you idiot.

07-01-2009, 04:43 AM	#10
saladin1970.5 Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	and this is an interview with his daughter who converted to Islam, and whose conversion has been the reason behind his work, which includes a) filming abu hamza to get him locked behind bars b) having izi uddin arrested c) behind the mosque documentaries on newsnight In this interview, his daughter claims he made it all up about working for the secret service in sri lanka etc. She also claims he had a homosexual affair with a vicar http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:...efox-a&strip=1

07-01-2009, 05:21 AM	#15
saladin1970.5 Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	the nutters website this is the website and organisation that this nutter who tried to get Cat Stevens arrested for terrorism http://www.vigilnetwork.com/aboutus.php

07-01-2009, 09:12 AM	#16
Ali Abdullah Veteran Campaigner Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,368 Rep Power: 121	It should come as no surprise that the Daily Mail and the Daily Express have picked up on the story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-website.html http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/...or-extremists-

07-01-2009, 01:12 PM	#19
Musab Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,476 Rep Power: 38	What a nutcase. If you guys want to word a letter supporting ummah, we can get this up on the website. This is just a campaign of intimidation against any muslim website that does not do as they say. do not be intimidated. __________________ Please please please report any posts that you think break forum rules.

07-01-2009, 01:24 PM	#20
Musab Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,476 Rep Power: 38	Actually i'm pretty dissapointed the ummah got blamed and not us. Anyone who irks israeli stooges is doing something right. __________________ Please please please report any posts that you think break forum rules.

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