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Old 24-06-2008, 01:28 PM   #1
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Man guilty over nail-bombs plot

A Nazi sympathiser who kept nail bombs under his bed has been convicted of three terrorism offences.

Martyn Gilleard, 31, of Goole, East Yorkshire, was a paid-up member of the National Front, the White Nationalist Party and the British People's Party.

Police officers discovered four home-made nail bombs, as well as bullets and bladed weapons in his flat.

Prosecutors said Gilleard had written that he had wanted to "save" Britain from "multi-racial peril".

Gilleard was convicted of preparing for terrorist acts and possessing articles and collecting information for terrorist purposes.

During the trial, he admitted having a collection of Nazi memorabilia, saying Nazism appealed to him because of the way the Nazis had "rebuilt" Germany.

Officers had found "potentially lethal bladed weapons", 34 bullets for a 2.2 calibre firearm and printouts from the internet about committing acts of terrorism, the court heard.

These included instructions on how to make a bomb and how to kill someone with poison.

Explaining why he made the bombs, Gilleard said: "I'd had a couple of cans. I was just sat around bored."

"An idea popped up and I thought, 'Why not?' I thought, 'I've got pretty much what I need,' and I threw them together."

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/uk/7471128.stm

Published: 2008/06/24 12:15:10 GMT

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I hope they throw the book at him. I'm also glad the police saved Britain from him.
By the way, this is all over BBC News, so let's not have any more of the usual
"non-Muslim crimes are ignored" nonsense, eh?
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Old 24-06-2008, 03:50 PM   #2
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I just hope that he's put away for a long time.
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Old 24-06-2008, 05:05 PM   #3
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Why isn't Nick Griffen in Belmarsh?
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He hasn't been found guilty of a crime has he Plim ? I seem to recall he got off a racism charge a while back.
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Good riddance.

Whilst Muslim terrorism may have come to the fore this past decade we should not forget that there have been far more numerous attacks by non-Muslim terrorists.

Terrorism is bound by no religion political outlook or race, merely hate.
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I think a short spell there could be quite an eye-opener for him.
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so let's not have any more of the usual
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You call it nonsense but I dont see this on the front page of the the sun, the notw, the daily israeli express or any of those other scummy tabloids, I dont see his 'non belief' being villified, I dont see the title reading 'athiest terrorist guilty over nailbombs plot", I dont see so called terrorism experts saying atheism is problematic and needs reforming, you get the picture...
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Why isn't Nick Griffen in Belmarsh?
well if the words like coloured and islam which come out of Nick Griffin mouth - were replaced by kaffir and west - then he would join the likes of Abu Hamza and Co in belmarsh. .........
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You call it nonsense but I dont see this on the front page of the the sun, the notw, the daily israeli express or any of those other scummy tabloids, I dont see his 'non belief' being villified, I dont see the title reading 'athiest terrorist guilty over nailbombs plot", I dont see so called terrorism experts saying atheism is problematic and needs reforming, you get the picture...
Yes, I get your picture alright. How could it be on the front page of anything when the verdict was today, Einstein?
Very weak attempt to lump atheism in with the various religious cults- remember, the only thing that atheists all have in common is in not falling for any of the many different versions of the God delusion on offer.Therefore atheists don't need to organise, we don't get together to offer violence, real or threatened, to non-atheists, we don't start wars for atheism, because we're not competing with religion, we're outside it-you get the picture?
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Yes, I get your picture alright. How could it be on the front page of anything when the verdict was today, Einstein?
so it will be on the front page of the gutter press tomorrow - Sherloke...
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so it will be on the front page of the gutter press tomorrow - Sherloke...
Of course Muslim terrorist convictions have slipped off the front pages as well recently- there have been so many that they hardly cause a stir now...
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You call it nonsense but I dont see this on the front page of the the sun, the notw, the daily israeli express or any of those other scummy tabloids, I dont see his 'non belief' being villified, I dont see the title reading 'athiest terrorist guilty over nailbombs plot", I dont see so called terrorism experts saying atheism is problematic and needs reforming, you get the picture...
As drepf says and I've said elsewhere Atheism is simply non-belief in any religion or gods-that is it it has no motivations, no agenda, no politics.

Therefore it is impossible to say atheism is problematic and needs reforming-atheism doesn't 'do' anything! It's non-belief!
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Of course Muslim terrorist convictions have slipped off the front pages as well recently- there have been so many that they hardly cause a stir now...
dribbling again drepf..... grow up...
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As drepf says and I've said elsewhere Atheism is simply non-belief in any religion or gods-that is it it has no motivations, no agenda, no politics.

Therefore it is impossible to say atheism is problematic and needs reforming-atheism doesn't 'do' anything! It's non-belief!
Sorry to correct you, but you revised your definition of Atheism to say it was a rejection of god, otherwise I'd still argue that you were atheist .
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You call it nonsense but I dont see this on the front page of the the sun, the notw, the daily israeli express or any of those other scummy tabloids, I dont see his 'non belief' being villified, I dont see the title reading 'athiest terrorist guilty over nailbombs plot", I dont see so called terrorism experts saying atheism is problematic and needs reforming, you get the picture...
It's on the Daily Hate website

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ht-chance.html
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Sorry to correct you, but you revised your definition of Atheism to say it was a rejection of god, otherwise I'd still argue that you were atheist .
It's a complete rejection a complete non-belief, nada-zip, zilch.

But that is all there is to atheism its a nothing, its completely passive.

And yeah as I said in that other thread that is what sets me as a agnostic apart from an atheist-I do not completely reject/do not believe in the concept of the divine.

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dribbling again drepf..... grow up...
I simply stated the facts. I know you don't deal in facts.
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well if the words like coloured and islam which come out of Nick Griffin mouth - were replaced by kaffir and west - then he would join the likes of Abu Hamza and Co in belmarsh. .........
Griffin charged for calling Islam a wicked religion etc after being uncovered by a tv expose, nutters at a mosque discovered to be spreading hate of non-believers etc uncovered by a tv expose results in police claiming the tv company were harming community cohesion.
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You call it nonsense but I dont see this on the front page of the the sun, the notw, the daily israeli express or any of those other scummy tabloids, I dont see his 'non belief' being villified, I dont see the title reading 'athiest terrorist guilty over nailbombs plot", I dont see so called terrorism experts saying atheism is problematic and needs reforming, you get the picture...
That has to be one of the most inane posts ever on here - and there's been a few.
What has religious belief got to do with his crime?
He's a racist. Racists come in all shapes and sizes and all religious beliefs, and none.
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well if the words like coloured and islam which come out of Nick Griffin mouth - were replaced by kaffir and west - then he would join the likes of Abu Hamza and Co in belmarsh. .........
I think its because, like Anjem Choudary, he is weasel enough to ensure his repulsive rhetoric skirts just within the bounds of legality.
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