Family of teen Muslim invited men to rape her

[Rie_Maya]

How can anyone suggest that this marriage is acceptable under Shariah? He is not of "sane mind" in the sense that he is not a man - the marriage was over the phone!

A GIRL of 15 was tricked into a "telephone marriage" ceremony to a Sheffield man with a mental age of five in a ceremony recognised by sharia (Islamic law).

When the girl arrived from Pakistan expecting to meet the handsome man she had been shown in a photograph, she found that he was 40 years old, unemployed and disabled.

To make matters worse, her mother-in-law decided to exploit her attractive looks by forcing her into prostitution.

The family invited men to the family home to rape her before she managed to escape to the police by bolting through the front door. She was taken into care and now lives in a refuge.

The case is highlighted in a report by the Centre for Social Cohesion, which has found that policemen, councillors and taxi drivers are turning a blind eye or even conniving in enforcing the Asian community's strict "moral code" on young women.

The girl's marriage last April was not recognised by the Home Office but was approved by the Islamic Sharia Council in Britain. She is typical of the runaway brides at risk of an "honour killing". According to official figures, 10 to 12 women are murdered in Britain in honour killings each year, but the government has been warned by MPs that this is a serious underestimate. Police often record the deaths as cases of domestic violence, while other girls are driven to suicide or taken away to their family's country of origin and never seen again. Many Asian parents would rather resort to violence against their children than see their reputation tarnished by the perceived dishonour of allowing them to become "westernised".

The report, Crimes of the Community, claims the problem is no longer an issue of first-generation migrants importing attitudes from "back home" but is "indigenous and self-perpetuating" because it is sustained by third and fourth-generation immigrants.

The study reveals the case of Saamiya, a 16-year-old girl from Birmingham, whose parents were so angry when they discovered she had a boyfriend that they flew her to Pakistan and told her they had arranged a marriage two hours before the ceremony.

"During the Islamic ceremony my dad was standing behind me with one hand on my shoulder and with his other hand he had a gun which was pointed at my back so that I didn't say 'no'," Saamiya said.

"To everyone else it looked natural — he was just standing there stroking my shoulder — but just before he had told me that he would shoot me if I didn't go through with it."

She was rescued from Pakistan by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office's forced marriage unit and now lives in a refuge in the Midlands, but has been told that she will be murdered by her brothers. The girl told investigators: "I haven't been back home since then. My brothers say that they want to take me back to Pakistan so they can kill me basically. They'll just pay the police there to keep quiet... I don't want to be killed. I'm only 16. I want to live my life."

The think-tank's report comes after Gordon Brown, the prime minister, said last week that he was extremely concerned that too little was being done to prevent honour crimes.

The study criticises the police and schools for failing to take action in a misguided attempt to avoid offending cultural sensibilities.

Karma Nirvana, a support group in Derby, claims it asked local schools last year to display warning posters produced by the forced marriage unit. It said the schools refused.

Derby council last week denied that the group had made the requests, but the prime minister has pledged to investigate reports that the government unit cannot get its advice posters into schools for fear of upsetting local opinion.

According to the report, women who go to the authorities to seek protection have been tracked down through their mobile phones or even by leaks of confidential information from government databases.

Jasvinder Sanghera, director of Karma Nirvana, said that police who find girls who have escaped from their families often simply return them to their parents where they face further abuse, with some Asian officers actually colluding in crimes. Sanghera is taking a case to the Independent Police Complaints Commission of a girl who fled her family but was kidnapped by relatives and held prisoner. She claims that a police officer tipped off the family where the girl was staying.

"Police have a long way to go before they get on top of honour crime. There is a lingering fear among officers of being dubbed racist for probing cultural issues. We've got to shake off that myth," she said.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3295487.ece

[yorkshire observer]

An interesting article in the context of an earlier discussion about the use of sharia law in the UK.
Very tragic and what I really struggle to understand in these cases is the role of women - usually mothers - in going along with it all.

[michael2007]

This kind of thing happens to families from all religions.

[Rie_Maya]

Originally Posted by michael2007

This kind of thing happens to families from all religions.

Which part?
The telephone marriage to a man who has the mind of a 5 year old?
The rapes?
The gun in the back to say yes to marriage?

Yeah I can think of so many such occurrences!!!!

Now let me think.... no - darn slipped my mind - only seems to be rife in countries with Muslim/Hindu/Sikh populations actually!!!

What an extremely ill thought out comment! So we just accept this do we and say ahppens world over so its not problem!!! That's why the Ummah is in such a state....comments like this!

[Re-born Jihadi]

Sorry to burst your bubble but anything the Centre for Social Cohesion prints/says needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. This is the same organisation that gives platform to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Ed Hussain and the self styled anti-islamic crusader Douglas Murray. http://www.socialcohesion.co.uk/

Everything on their website is anti-islam. And then they have the cheek to suggest they are working for social cohesion. Instead all they are doing is upholding the zionist motto of religious and racial segregation.

They are on the same level as the Policy Exchange think tank that told us extremism was rife in Islamic Masjids only to be blown out of the water by newsnight.


I am sure there are cases where young men and women, from all cultural backgrounds, have been tricked or forced into heinous situations but you need a far better source than the Centre for Social Cohesion.

[Ali Abdullah]

"...but was approved by the Islamic Sharia Council in Britain."

I'd like to know who or what this is. It doesn't sound very capable given this story!

Perhaps the CSC can tell us!?

[Rehaam]

Originally Posted by Ali Abdullah

"...but was approved by the Islamic Sharia Council in Britain."

I'd like to know who or what this is. It doesn't sound very capable given this story!

Perhaps the CSC can tell us!?

Exactly - things like this need to be resolved - if ISC in B law did approve it - how using what authority (yes, yes I know they are all very Islamically educated to the level where we no longer understand how they come to their decisions..but it would be interesting to know this one!).....and if the council didnt approve it then why have they been accused so?

[michael2007]

Why don't you e-mail them and ask?

[ah1999]

The case cited is an extreme example. Whatever laws there are some people will inevitably misuse them.
There are many issues which need to be considered in this case.
1. The over whelming issue is that the girl (who was involved in the marriage contract) was deceived. As in any legal contract if the goods/terms contracted are defective or not as described then the contracted can be nullified.
2. As a general rule one can appoint an agent to act on one's behalf in a legal contract.
3. The scholars can only give a ruling based on the info. that they are provided with.


Re Legalality of a Marriage Contract of an Insane Person
The 4 schools of fiqh disagree on this issue. The Shafii and Hanabli schools consider it to be invalid.
The Hanafi school considers it to be valid based on the hadith of the Prophet SAWS that mariage, divorce and manumission of slave in jest is valid, hence so is marriage in a state of insanity.

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[Unaiza]

I agree with Michael2007, this sort of thing happens in all religions.

What I'm concerned about is whether The Islamic Shariah CB said a consent of marriage under deception is legal.

[iraniboy]

Originally Posted by Rie_Maya

Which part?
The telephone marriage to a man who has the mind of a 5 year old?
The rapes?
The gun in the back to say yes to marriage?

Yeah I can think of so many such occurrences!!!!

Now let me think.... no - darn slipped my mind - only seems to be rife in countries with Muslim/Hindu/Sikh populations actually!!!

What an extremely ill thought out comment! So we just accept this do we and say ahppens world over so its not problem!!! That's why the Ummah is in such a state....comments like this!

All parts and all countries. There are many evil things happenning around us but we don't find out unless someone tell us about them.

It's true thatwe should be reponsible and commited to what happenes with the name of Islam but sayining that these events are just among certain communities is a lie.

[Unaiza]

Originally Posted by michael2007

Why don't you e-mail them and ask?

I have, their email address is:

http://www.islamic-sharia.org/contact-us.html

[Salutor]

Originally Posted by michael2007

This kind of thing happens to families from all religions.

I disagree. I have never heard of anything remotely like this in my life. It is backward.

Anyway, if I have read the piece correctly they are not even married.

[Re-born Jihadi]

Originally Posted by Salutor

I disagree. I have never heard of anything remotely like this in my life. It is backward.

Anyway, if I have read the piece correctly they are not even married.

Agreed that it is backward but it does happen in all religions. Just might not happen here (in this country) or be reported here as much. But it does happen.

But totally agree. It is backward.

[zara]

Originally Posted by yorkshire observer

An interesting article in the context of an earlier discussion about the use of sharia law in the UK.
Very tragic and what I really struggle to understand in these cases is the role of women - usually mothers - in going along with it all.

This has nothing to do with Islam YO.

As you full well know already.

[zara]

Originally Posted by Salutor

I disagree. I have never heard of anything remotely like this in my life. It is backward.

Anyway, if I have read the piece correctly they are not even married.

Correct Salutor, they are not married.

Muslims can indeed marry by telephone or in absentia with a representative for each person, but marriage to a mentally disabled person is not valid.

[Re-born Jihadi]

Originally Posted by zara

Correct Salutor, they are not married.

Muslims can indeed marry by telephone or in absentia with a representative for each person, but marriage to a mentally disabled person is not valid.

Agreed. Not only are they then not married under islamic law but they are also not married within the confines of british law.

[Re-born Jihadi]

Originally Posted by zara

This has nothing to do with Islam YO.

As you full well know already.

Looks like YO's hatred of islam has finally caught up with him.

Bet you my last "hair on my head" that he will find a way to link it though. Even though he knows that its not an islamic ideal/principle.

[Ali Abdullah]

Here is the actual CSC report - "Crimes of the Community":-

http://www.socialcohesion.co.uk/pdf/...eCommunity.pdf

All the Report seems to say about the case under discussion is this:

In some cases, rape can also take the form of prostitution. On a
few occasions, families have reportedly married their children
from abroad in order to import a bride to work in prostitution.
Sana Bukhari, an outreach worker at Ashiana in Sheffield, says:

“I have one case when someone was brought over and her husband
had mental health issues; he had the mental age of a five year old but
the body of a 40 year old. It was a telephone nikah, so the girl only
saw what he looked like on picture and thought ‘gosh he looks good’.
When she finally arrived she found out that he was disabled, and this
girl was very pretty, so the mother in law decided to invite all these
men over, and it was prostitution. The girl however managed to escape
and go to the police.”

[Salutor]

Originally Posted by Re-born Jihadi

Agreed that it is backward but it does happen in all religions. Just might not happen here (in this country) or be reported here as much. But it does happen.

But totally agree. It is backward.

Thank you, it is nice whan we can see eye to eye. I do however still disagree with this...

Originally Posted by Re-born Jihadi

it does happen in all religions. Just might not happen here (in this country) or be reported here as much. But it does happen.

I have never heard of such a thing in this country. Never.

Redneck USA perhaps, but not here.