Not good PR man from Orange !

[Ali-Gation]

Inigio Wilson who's a "community affairs" PR (Inigo.wilson@orange.co.uk) man for Orange wrote a piece for conservativehome.com. Here's his interpretation of few words:

Islamophobic - anyone who objects to having their transport blown up on the way to work.

Palestinians - archetype 'victims' no matter how many teenagers they murder in bars and fast food outlets. Never responsible for anything they do – or done in their name - because of 'root causes' or ‘legitimate grievances’.

mmm Mr Inigo Wilson. we're all up for fair criticism but i sense a deep hatred. Orange need to find them a better "community" pr man.

Complain:
Fax: 08703748129
customer.services@orange.co.uk
Customer Services, P O Box 10, Patchway, Bristol BS32 4BQ

[saladin1970.5]

well , when we threaten to advertise his statements across all islamic media outlets, both hear and abroad. I doubt he will have his job for much longer

[Ali-Gation]

Mr Inigo Wilson


Orange PR is contracted out to campany called GolinHarris, of which he's an employee, so better to make a complaint there.

tel: 08703731500
email: orangepr@golinharris.com

[IbnAdam]

Assalum Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakhatahu,

This is the reply I got:

This is an automatic message to let you know that your email has been received by the Orange press office team. Due to the number of queries we receive the press office team can only respond queries from journalists and industry analysts.

We endeavour to answer your queries as swiftly as possible, however if your request is urgent please call the Press Office Team on 0870 9905436

If you are a customer and have a query about your Orange account please contact customer services. If you are a pay monthly customer please dial 150 from your handset or 450 if you pay as you go. You can also visit www.orange.co.uk for more information.

Thank you

Next stage: Press Office Team on 0870 9905436

Wassalam.

[ammaad]

muahahaha

i am an orange customer... i just threatened to tell every muslim i know. i also gave em the web page and ask for a written response to be sent to my home address.

call their PR office

0870 3768888

[anonmouse]

From:
Sent: 12 August 2006 17:22
To: 'customer.services@orange.co.uk'; 'orangepr@golinharris.com'; 'executive.office@orange.co.uk'; 'pr@orange.co.uk'; 'public.relations@orange.co.uk'
Subject: Complaint against Orange PR person has made irresponsible comments.


Dear Sirs,

I am writing to register an official complaint about public comments from a member of your team. Mr. Inigio Wilson is a "community affairs" PR man for Orange and I was dismayed to see that he has written islamaphobic and racist comments which were they anti-semitic as opposed to against muslims would result in immediate condemnation from you. I trust you will deal with this complaint fairly and condemn such comments which have been indirectly linked to Orange at the beginning of the article. He says:

(1) "Islamophobic - anyone who objects to having their transport blown up on the way to work."
This is islamaphobic in the sense that it obfuscates the fact that Islamaphobia exists and it suggests that all victims of terrorism are islamaphobic (which is an offence to all innocent victims of 7/7 including muslim victims). Islamaphobia is the irrational fear of Islam and is a phrase which is used to describe prejudice against Islam which is especially important since such prejudice does not fall into the definition of racism. Further this comment is clearly trying to falsely polarise the problem of Islamist terrorism by saying that all muslims are terrorists - as a muslim I condemn having my transport blown up but clearly I do not consider myself islamaphobic.

(2) "Palestinians - archetype 'victims' no matter how many teenagers they murder in bars and fast food outlets. Never responsible for anything they do – or done in their name - because of 'root causes' or ‘legitimate grievances’."
This comment is clear racism against Palestinians and suggests all Palestinians are responsible for terrorsim which is clearly untrue.

This is published on the internet with indirect reference to Orange in the article. The article is live at http://conservativehome.blogs.com/pl...wilson_a_.html and a printout is attached.

As a very longstanding Orange customer who has enjoyed otherwise good customer service from orange, I think Orange need to find a more appropriate "community" PR representative who does not hold such islamaphobic and racist views. I would also urge you to reconsider instructing a PR firm which allows its staff to comment in such an inappropriate way.

Please tell me how you intend to deal with this matter and please inform me of what action you will be taking against your islamaphobic and racist PR representative. I would appreciate a response from Orange Executive office and a response from Golin Harris and would request an apology and retraction from Mr Wilson. My address and main Orange phone number appears below.

Kind regards,
Mr

Address:
Orange phone number:

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[ammaad]

I will guarantee rep points to anyone who forwards this mail onwards to all their email contacts and also complains to orange.

[anonmouse]

Originally Posted by Ali-Gation

Mr Inigo Wilson


Orange PR is contracted out to campany called GolinHarris, of which he's an employee, so better to make a complaint there.

tel: 08703731500
email: orangepr@golinharris.com

I'm not sure he is an employee of Golin Harris - certainly switchboard have never heard of him. He may well be an Orange employee in fact.

GolinHarris - London
Fox Court
14 Gray's Inn Road
London WC1X 8WS
United Kingdom
Phone: +44.20.7067.0600
Fax: +44.870.990.5447

Key Contact:

Jonathan Hughes
Joint Managing Director
jhughes@golinharris.com

Matthew Neale
Joint Managing Director
mneale@golinharris.com

[ammaad]

I got a reply from orange


Ref: Inigo Wilson

Thank you for sharing your comments with Orange.

Though we respect the right of our employees to do so, Orange does not hold or express opinions on such matters, therefore the article you referenced does not in any way represent the views of our organisation.

Orange

To which I replied

I am not satisfied. I would be grateful fi you can get someone who is responsible for termination of contracts in contact with me. Thankyou.

[anonmouse]

From: JACKSON, Stuart [mailto:stuart.jackson@orange.co.uk]
Sent: 15 August 2006 11:16
To: Press, Office [mailtoress.office@orange.co.uk]
Subject: Ref: Inigo Wilson


Ref: Inigo Wilson

Thank you for sharing your comments with Orange.

Though we respect the right of our employees to do so, Orange does not hold or express opinions on such matters, therefore the article you referenced does not in any way represent the views of our organisation.

Orange

Reply:
Dear Sirs,

Thank you for your response to the complaint about Mr Inigio Wilson who has made racist and islamaphobic comments in an article which begins with a description of his employer (yourselves).

Before I communicate your response more widely I would like to give you opportunity to clarify your statement.

Please confirm your response is:

(1) you respect the right of your employees to hold racist and islamaphobic views;
(2) will be taking no action whatsoever against your employee and will allow your employees to make racist and islamaphobic comments without question even where they reference their employer as a preface to such comments;
(3) your response has been fully approved by Orange UK Executive Office on behalf of Orange SA.

Kind regards.
Mr

[judoanswersall]

well , when we threaten to advertise his statements across all islamic media outlets, both hear and abroad. I doubt he will have his job for much longer

or much of anything else...

You guys are destroying a man who is just afraid...

He isn't a Islamophobe...he is scared out of his mind. He probably hasn't said 3 words to a Muslim in his life. Instead of getting him fired - how about confronting him and telling him that your religion is about peace and that those who distort it are the same as the Irish who did so....Do you hate all Irish?

[Muqtabis-un-noor]

He is scared, thats why hes an Islamophobe.

[judoanswersall]

Im scared....

[anonmouse]

Originally Posted by judoanswersall

or much of anything else...

You guys are destroying a man who is just afraid...

He isn't a Islamophobe...he is scared out of his mind. He probably hasn't said 3 words to a Muslim in his life. Instead of getting him fired - how about confronting him and telling him that your religion is about peace and that those who distort it are the same as the Irish who did so....Do you hate all Irish?

Personally, I tried to call Mr Wilson to discuss this with him as you will see from my earlier post.

Im afraid you cannot say that he is scared and not an islamaphobe or has never met muslims unless you have spoken to him yourself. The assumption that he is a racist and islamaphobe is equal if not greater on the facts to your assumption.

The fact is he has made racist and islamphobic comments. When Mr Livingstone made a comment about a journalist being just like a concentration camp guard for haruinging him outside as he was trying to go home, he was accused and punsihed for anti-semitism. What Mr Wilson has said is far worse than that and I think we have a duty to see those comments not go unchallenged.

[judoanswersall]

I agree - Im just sayin that instead of destroying the man's career for this - give him a chance to see that there is hope in this world. Many - like me sometimes - have pretty much given up hope for our children to ever fly overseas. I loved going to Europe and learning about other cultures ... but now as I have children of my own - I would never let my daughter fly alone or go over seas.

I am angry at Islam for having text that would allow for the interpretation that by blowing up my daughter - that they get to go to heaven and have 72 virgins. I am angry that she will likely never see her grand parents and great grand parents. I am angry that I will never have a trip with my family to anywhere that I can't drive to.

Welcome to the new world - and if you don't like - you better not make any islamofacist comment - because you will lose your job.

[anonmouse]

Originally Posted by judoanswersall

Welcome to the new world - and if you don't like - you better not make any islamofacist comment - because you will lose your job.

Yes noone should make racist and islamaphobic comments - i agree with that fully. As to whether Mr Wilson will lose his job - I can tell you that we have no chance of that happening. Today it is okay to be islamaphobic, we have to work to change that just as the jewish community did, until then the Mr Wilsons wont be losing their jobs. The only thing that will happen without public pressure (which muslims are unable to raise) is that Mr Wilson will be told off for prefacing his article with comments about where he worked. And that will probably be the extent of it.

You're going over the top with you're end of world travel comments. And there are extremists who undermine the texts of EVERY religion, thats human nature.

[A_Murphy]

Hi all, don't think negatively - it is perfectly possible that Mr Wilson could lose his job - remember Kilroy got the sack from the BBC because of his disgusting comments. All it takes is consistent pressure from all of us.

I have emailed Orange and told them that all my family will terminate their Orange contracts if they do not deal with this in a satisfactory way (which is true).

I asked them if Islamophobia was acceptable to Orange as a company and I told them that I would not be happy with being fobbed off with a 'Mr Wilson's views do not reflect Orange's' reply.

Let's see what they say - I'll let you know.

Let's keep it up y'all!

[Damascus]

Originally Posted by judoanswersall

Im scared....

why you don't face bull dozers and tanks coming to smash your home in

[Damascus]

Originally Posted by judoanswersall

I am angry at Islam for having text that would allow for the interpretation that by blowing up my daughter - that they get to go to heaven and have 72 virgins. I am angry that she will likely never see her grand parents and great grand parents. I am angry that I will never have a trip with my family to anywhere that I can't drive to.

its lucky for israel your not fighting onthe front line

[Muqtabis-un-noor]

yeah, judo. care to back up your comments? find me the "text" in the Qur'an that says that. stop acting like you're the victim and start defending yourself instead of shooting random logic-free comments.