i had to read this a few times, are u sayin even tho its wrong u can sort of understand what those ppl did at beslanYou got to understand who you are, and what you've done and been through compared to others. Worldly wise and religiously wise. You got to understand that your moral stance is affected by your upbringing, your level of information, the time and comfort you've had in which to mentally process it, and your emotional state at any given time. What you think and feel now in the cold comfortable sober light of day is not what you will think and feel when the whole world is falling down around you and you have seen the unspeakable and most disgusting things imaginable happen to those you lived your own life for. When all hope is gone, and you've been crushed and torn apart. Being able to be objective is more of a proof of the luxury in which you exist than it is of any moral superiority you have. Any superiority vanished a long time ago for most of us who live the lives we do.
For sure, I remember that article after Beslan from qoqaz. I've alluded to it a few times on this forum when discussing the Ticking time bomb scenario that western hawks keep using to justify torture. Of course one is hypothetical scenario to excuse western barbarity and mental perversions , while the other a consequence of a utterly tragic reality for Chechans desperate to stop any more of their children being killed and raped.
It's not that it was right in any way. No one would think it's right. They were themselves harmless children. Hell, they hated having to do it. And although it goes without saying that it was atrocious and awful and disgusting and should never have happened not should ever happen again, what I won't do is join in the bandwagon who think its holy to blurt out "Terrorist!" at people they don't even know when they're haven't walked an inch in the other persons shoes. That's not holiness, its cheap and paradoxically smacks of uncompassion. Its easy being all"holy and pure" when your own kids are alive and well, and when you've never had to see them being raped in front of their eyes, or whole portions of their family murdered and tortured. Not so easy when you see one killed and raped one after another. Again and again. And again. And again.
So no, I do not hate them. I do not judge them. This wasn't your normal tit for tat nonsense. They were traumatised and victims of Russian savagery. I leave it to Allah to judge them ultimately, as only He can do so correctly. I hope Allah forgives them since it was not with evil intentions they did it, even though it was wrong. I hope he punishes the Russians scum who were out to rape and pillage to satisfy their groins and their sick porn affected minds. I hope those poor innocent Beslan children are recompensed and rewarded, and I hope their families have their suffering eased. They paid the ultimate price because of the rats in their army wanting to rape and kill every 14 year old fair skinned virgin Chechan girl they saw and because they enjoyed the drama of seeing men and boys set upon by military dogs they purposely starved to make them even more vicious ,and of the arrogant and imperialistic Russian govt not caring to put an end to it; not because of any lust for killing by the Chechans who were at their wits ends.
Damn this world is so nasty sometimes. Tragedy that the world cared so little that the chechans were in that situation. Tragedy that the innocent Beslans went to school one day and returned homes in coffins. But also disgusting that we have a nerve to even look at any Chechan father or mother in the face, let alone dare to open our mouths in their direction. And no I wouldn't be able to say this to the face of a Beslan parent either. It was awful and tragic and heartbreaking for everyone affected.
So lets not keep on our judgmental high horse even if its nice and high so everyone else can see us in Britain and know what great guys and gals we are. And let's hope they don't ask us one day why we cared more about that than helping the Chechans who had already submitted and were screaming for help. Why we were louder in claiming our own purity over them, and so quiet in doing anything to help them in the first place.
As for Babar then the article says Badat claimed (during his witness pleas to get his sentence reduced) that Babar he taught him about OMG J-word, but that is not the same as terrorism. Can we no longer even say the word or acknowledge its part of Islam without becoming terrorists, or aides to it? As for "links" then that is such an abused word used opportunistically to throw mud at people and fill narratives to fit agendas. [/
i just read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_...hostage_crisis
i cant see how anyone traumatised by what was done to them would do exactly the same to other innocent ppl and then for u to understand it
that does make it tit for tat