9/11 - yes, again

[fred]

Frankly, while there are many conspiracy theories about 9/11, I just can't see enough evidence to be sure either way.
I've heard loads of pro Muslims groups claim the attacks were mossad.
However, I've always assumed that was political crap and not much worth listening to.

This one is different because of who is saying it.

Alan Sabrosky
Alan Sabrosky (Ph.D., University of Michigan), is a ten-year US Marine Corps veteran and a graduate of the US Army War College. also a writer and consultant specializing in national and international security affairs. In December 1988, he received the Superior Civilian Service Award after more than five years of service at the U.S. Army War College as Director of Studies, Strategic Studies Institute, and holder of the General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research.
He is listed in WHO'S WHO IN THE EAST (23rd ed.). A Marine Corps Vietnam veteran and a 1986 graduate of the U.S. Army War College, Dr. Sabrosky's teaching and research appointments have included the United States Military Academy, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), Middlebury College and Catholic University; while in government service, he held concurrent adjunct professorships at Georgetown University and the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS).
Dr. Sabrosky has lectured widely on defense and foreign affairs in the United States and abroad.

It's worth 10 minutes of your time.

[Goalshan602]

Link Please Br Fred.

[fred]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alMC9...eature=related

Sorry. I was very tired when I looked at this.

[Faithfully]

Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim Ramadhan Mubarak! As salaamu alaykum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alMC9...eature=related

Sorry. I was very tired when I looked at this.

And I can understand that people are exhuasted from hearing about this seemng mystery. Well, I've followed this crime story from its inception, and finally there is some real proof that no Muslims were involved in this dastardly act; as I was quite certain of this fact. I would like to thank fred, for this post, as I was beginning to feel alone in this enormous situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jazdG3-ZETM 2012 - NEWEST 9/11 DOCUMENTARY - PROOF 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB .mp4

Wa salaam. Faithfully

[fred]

I'm not generally into conspiracy theories but this story has so many holes, it needs a closer look.
The bit that gets me the most is the pentagon.
There must be hundreds of cameras around that place but not a single photo of an aircraft except something with totally the wrong shaped nose cone in a blurry image.

The airspeed was reported to be 350mph or 563kph
That divides down to 156m/s
The aircraft, a Boeing 757, is 47+ metres long.



Note the time stamp on the images (Wrong date and time - maybe the security didn't know how to set up their video machine). Not even a second apart.
This bit is a deliberately understated guess. Understated to allow for error in the favour of the official US story.
The distance between the building and the edge of frame in those photos is 40m.
We know the camera was running at a minimum of 2 frames per second as there are two frames with the same time stamp.
That means a camera, recording an object moving at 156m/s over 40 m would see a large part of that that object at least once.
In fact, the building is 23.5 metres tall so the real distance is closer to 120 metres
That, with the massive inaccuracy in favour of the official story is, 0.25 of a second for the nose to travel but a further 0.3 of a second before the tail enters the building. 0.55 of a second with a frame every 0.5 second.
Where is the aircraft?

[jamie]

what gets me with the pic tho is if the pentagon and cia and fbi and everyone else the govt employs, why would they fake a pic and let the wrong date still stand, are they that stupid?

i dont know if the usa govt knew what was happening and maybe even let it happen, but it still doesnt mean that this wasnt a planned attack by al queda on usa.

[fred]

are they that stupid?

If the US military made beer; would it be the best in the world?
No, it'd probably taste like gnat's pee

[Faithfully]

Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim Ramadhan Mubarak! As salaamu alaykum.

These two video's are quite interesting, although they take a little time to run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD_vw...eature=related 9/11 - Missing Links ( full movie )


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU961...eature=related BEST 9/11 DOCUMENTARY EVER!(FULL MOVIE)


Salaam/Peace Faithfully

[Aky786Journalist]

Re: The Pentagon. The thing I don't get is why they only have a before and after shot of the "plane" hitting the building. Surely there has to be another shot that is conclusively shows it's a commerical jet?

Based on what guys in science have said about the reason why the hole in the building was small, which I tried to understand and it makes kinda sense. But the lack of transparency doesn't help with 9/11 at all.

Only Allah knows the truth obviously but if there is a murky edge to it, then I fear we will never know.

[Seperatist]

If the US military made beer; would it be the best in the world?
No, it'd probably taste like gnat's pee

You should go to the states and taste their beers...they are indeed akin to what it is assumed gnats pee tastes like, their water is stronger than their beers.

[jamie]

You should go to the states and taste their beers...they are indeed akin to what it is assumed gnats pee tastes like, their water is stronger than their beers.

ur not allowed to taste it

[The Shadow]

ur not allowed to taste it

There are many who may have drank before giving it up as Islam entered their lives.

One of my own brothers is such a case.

[fred]

There are many who may have drank before giving it up as Islam entered their lives.

One of my own brothers is such a case.

Me too.
I can tell you the truth of American beers
Never had a good one. Same goes for SE Asian stuff.

[Janissary]

Me too.
I can tell you the truth of American beers
Never had a good one. Same goes for SE Asian stuff.

Jack Daniels tastes like Gnats pee. Hell any american whisky.

[Mikebloke]

Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim Ramadhan Mubarak! As salaamu alaykum.



And I can understand that people are exhuasted from hearing about this seemng mystery. Well, I've followed this crime story from its inception, and finally there is some real proof that no Muslims were involved in this dastardly act; as I was quite certain of this fact. I would like to thank fred, for this post, as I was beginning to feel alone in this enormous situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jazdG3-ZETM 2012 - NEWEST 9/11 DOCUMENTARY - PROOF 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB .mp4

Wa salaam. Faithfully

Actually, most Muslims have their head in the sand because they can't accept the idea that a Muslim could do so much wrong. Its a popular Muslim belief that September 11th did not involve any Muslims at all, and quite frankly plain wrong.

We have Muslims in Iraq blowing up Mosques
We have Muslims in Afghanistan stoning Muslim girls who get raped
We have Muslims in Pakistan stripping Women in the street and forcing them to walk naked around towns
We have Muslims in Bangladesh refusing to help their brothers and sisters in Burma over a debate whether they are Bengali or not
We have Muslims in Saudi Arabia that stick 6 inch nails into migrant workers because they believe living in the 'holy land' gives them some kind of superiority over everyone else

Yep, we Muslims can do no wrong.

[fred]

Actually, most Muslims have their head in the sand because they can't accept the idea that a Muslim could do so much wrong. Its a popular Muslim belief that September 11th did not involve any Muslims at all, and quite frankly plain wrong.

I think a Muslim group did fly aircraft into the twin towers.
I don't think any aircraft flew into the pentagon.
I'm getting the idea, the US government or some other group knew of the plan and used it for their own ends.
Yes, there are many Muslims who are, frankly, idiots.

[Mikebloke]

I think a Muslim group did fly aircraft into the twin towers.
I don't think any aircraft flew into the pentagon.
I'm getting the idea, the US government or some other group knew of the plan and used it for their own ends.
Yes, there are many Muslims who are, frankly, idiots.

I'm still up in the air regarding pentagon, and I try to think about what I'd do if I was a member of the US Government/staff involved in dealing with the incident. This leads me to believe that the Pentagon incident could just as well be a botched attempt to deal with a threat that simply didn't exist at that place at that time, and is the most logical reason for a cover up in order not to distract from the horror of the twin tower attacks. From a nationalist perspective, this would safeguard those in charge from questions as well as not diluting the emotions of sadness at the loss of so many lives.

While the US is secretive in many ways, if it was a 'rogue' in the military it would have been openly revealed, rogues in the US military is commonplace and almost always attract media attention and conformation from the US government.

[The Shadow]

I think a Muslim group did fly aircraft into the twin towers.
I don't think any aircraft flew into the pentagon.
I'm getting the idea, the US government or some other group knew of the plan and used it for their own ends.
Yes, there are many Muslims who are, frankly, idiots.

Which could be the detonators going off to bring the building down- based on witnesses statements.

I think due to some unexplained events and shadowy going on's (including what happened at the Pentagon) no one will ever really know for sure. What is certain is that a lot of people hold 'Muslims' responsible and this has changed the way Muslims are viewed across the world- if there was a plan to demonize and make the Muslim world the enemy, in some way this has worked.

There is no justification of taking innocent lives- however, the very people who condemn Muslims in general also need to see the world around them and how Muslims suffer on a daily basis- pre and post 9/11

[fred]

What is certain is that a lot of people hold 'Muslims' responsible and this has changed the way Muslims are viewed across the world- if there was a plan to demonize and make the Muslim world the enemy, in some way this has worked.

Worked in a big way.
US arms manufacturers would have been having a tough time had it not been for evil Muslims.

God bless Muslims for saving the US arms trade?

[Faithfully]

Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allaah, The Merciful, The Compassionate. As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You, Everyone.



The following video has practical answers, to seemingly paradoxical questions.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V0wj2Tn_QI SEPTHEMBER 11TH, 2001... 911 documentary,(9/11 was or wasn't an inside job?



Wa salaam. Faithfully