this is about more than just galloway - a vote against labour is political progress for muslims.
anyone notice that labour's immediate response was to imply that unpatriotic locals had hijacked the democratic process? i suppose they think the bnp/edl vote is worth going after now that disobedient asians/muslims have dared to raise their voices.
I can't argue with that as such.Originally Posted by nasman
Labour has courted Muslims for years but allowed Blair to illegally invade a couple of countries, resulting in the deaths of so many while fattening Blair's wallet.
The jump was good; the direction less so.
Thank God, I thought I was the only person who thinks not much about GG and wasn't totally sucked into this "I'll pretend I'm a Muslim to gain your votes with carefully worded speeches".
The GG everyone talks about is very different to the one I reasonably respected but ultimately self endolged individual I've always known him to be.
GG has always had a monetary interest in Iraq, he certainly isn't interested in the anti-war movement for anything other than his own pocket, did we really forget the 80's and 90's so easily?
"My most brilliant achievement was my ability to be able to persuade my wife to marry me." - Winston Churchill
That he has and he has always answered his critics with consumate eloquence.
I always assumes he was getting slipped a few quid by Sadders but I'm assured he wasn't (Or it wasn't provable). Perhaps you can enlighten me a little more.
He seems to have made quite a few 'genuine mistakes' with expenses such as the war on want where he had to repay some disputed cash and the oil for food program where lots of cash was disappeared into humanitarian aid.
Well, George is human. (I'm assured)
I'm sure marching with murderer, Gerry Addams and shaking hands with Sadders was fine. Not that I would have done so.
I should be clear before I'm accused of supporting the invasion of Iraq - I don't but that doesn't mean I have to shake hands or support a killer like Sadam.
Now we have the idiot wanting Argentina to share control of the Falklands.
Of course George would never arrange for his girlfriend to jump a housing list or anything quite so underhand as that. I wonder if she was one of the Greeks he had sex with.
Opinion.
My opinion is simple enough. He creates controversy that keeps his ego in the papers and gets him a measure of power.
He'll say anything to voters to get his parliamentary salary, speaking fees and talk show appearances.
Voters are just his mugs used to get his wallet nicely fattened.
Palestine is far better off without him on their side.
Pity he isn't Jewish - Israel would surrender the occupied lands in a week if he was on their side.
Zorro
Would you care to comment on the Galloway letter I posted on the last page?
Perhaps you could tell us if it's genuine and offer comment on the apparent claim his opponent isn't a Muslim.
Is it a fair tactic, do you support issuing such a letter and are the claims true?
Perhaps you know George personally and could ask him about it.
Well lets put it this way, nobody forced him to marry an Iraqi Woman and be the Labour party/Government representative to Saddam Hussain. Even ignoring cash for oil, the idea that nether he nor his business minded Wife had absolutely no ties to Saddam Hussain, who led a "Arab Socialist" nation in which the Ba'ath Party was the closest thing in modern times to a realistic multinational ideal to the Soviet Union that he loves so much is pretty hard to comprehend.
Its no surprise the man is against intervention in Syria, and I'm freaked that I'm nearly the only one who sees his apparent turnaround dislike of alcohol and sudden belief of a higher power in the middle of an election campaign he happened to win by a large margin as slightly suspicious. Its quite clear he would tell his potential electorate anything to get their support, and wonder now how much he lied in Bethnal Green and Bow back in 2005.
PS. Still support the removal of dictators as an Islamic duty, and our nations continued involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan.
"My most brilliant achievement was my ability to be able to persuade my wife to marry me." - Winston Churchill
A couple of questions come to mind.
That letter clearly claims his opponent is either not a Muslim or a very bad one.
Has Galloway provided any evidence to support this?
The letter also strongly suggests Galloway is a Muslim.
Will George either confirm or deny this?
He holds the Hilal-i-quaid-i-azzam award and the hilal-i- Pakistan award for services to the restoration of democracy in Pakistan...30 years go? respect to him. The man is beyond reproach when it comes to charges of corrupt behaviour, if his enemies could have proved anything against him they would have by now.A couple of questions come to mind.
That letter clearly claims his opponent is either not a Muslim or a very bad one.
Has Galloway provided any evidence to support this?
The letter also strongly suggests Galloway is a Muslim.
Will George either confirm or deny this?
Granted on the award, pending on the rest (No one actually proved Blair to be a corrupt, murdering dog but I'm pretty sure he is) but is George a Muslim as he implies and what evidence is there against his opponent?
You have to admit, it's a bit on the serious side to make such an accusation/implication against a man.
Evidence is required for any such claim.
Hilarious how that letter slams Labour for telling them to vote sectarian cause they are Muslims and/or Pakistani, yet the letter does the same.
"My most brilliant achievement was my ability to be able to persuade my wife to marry me." - Winston Churchill
That much is as ironic as it is stupid but I'm more concerned at the allegations and implications.
Seems a tad low.
I challenge George to prove the suggestion and ask him to state his religion or lack of it.
Seems fair.
I'm in two minds about Gorgeous George. On the one hand, if I supported Israel in any way shape or form, George Galloway would be the single least likely human being on earth to change my mind. (With Fred on this.) If I harboured a suspicion that the Palestinian/Arab side were irrational and belligerent and the Israeli's are the long suffering victims of Arab aggression, whilst the most vocal spokesman for the Palestinians cause in the UK happened to be an aggressive man from Dundee whose blood pressure seemingly hovers around 1500 psi; then I think it's a no-brainer. Gorgeous George is a liability and potentially counter-productive where changing peoples minds is concerned.
On the other hand, while GG isn't going to win any converts from the pro-Israeli side, I think he's been more effective than any other individual at putting the Palestinian case forward to people who don't necessarily hold an opinion on the subject. I think that it's fair to say that the British population is largely uninformed, misinformed or apathetic about the history of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, but there's no way that your average Joe could tune in to GG's Talksport phone-in and not finish listening with anything other than serious doubts about the actions of the State of Israel. The very same weaknesses which make GG wholly incapable of converting any Israel supporter (i.e. 1500psi blood pressure/dundee/aggression/God complex) make his radio show the most popular phone-in in the UK. If GG has a weakness in this regard it's that he's almost too successful at doing what he does. Because the pro-Palestinian marketplace in the UK is dominated by GG, his stand-off debating style means that he drowns out more reasonable sounding people who make exactly the same arguments. I mean if my salary depended on advertising revenue, which in turn depended on audience figures, and I had to choose two opposing people to have on my news programme to discuss the Israeli/Palestinian conflict; and my choices for the pro-Palestinian side were (former) Archbishop Rowan Williams, Robert Fisk or Gorgeous George - well there'd only be one winner. The downside of this is that GG is likely to land a devestating 1500psi broadside on whichever unfortunate Zionist gets wheeled in to be on the other side of the discussion. While GG will ultimately make the most valid argument, there's always the risk that all the viewer will see is an irate man from Dundee shouting down his opponent - and given half the chance the news anchor as well. In that sort of environment he doesn't often come accross well.
As for his campaign strategy in Bradford, I'm again in a mixed mind. While campaigning for the 'Muslim' vote in Bradford is a wholly legitimate campaign strategy, GG seems to have gone way beyond the pale in his efforts to court Muslim voters. As yesterdays articles in the Guardian pointed out, it's one thing to say, "I believe in X or Y because of my religious faith." It's quite another thing to say, "I believe in X or Y because of my religious faith, and if you don't vote for me then you better watch your back on the day of judgement!" That sort of religious arm twisting makes me think less of the guy as a serious politician and I'm pretty sure that sort of behaviour will come back to haunt GG in the future because of the precedent his campaign has set.
However, again on the other hand, GG was up against it in Bradford. I was initially slightly incredulous about the line in the campaign leaflet, "I, George Galloway, do not drink alcohol and never have. Ask yourself if you believe the other candidate in this election can say that truthfully." On first reading that looks like such a pathetic statement. However in yesterdays Guardian* Salma Yacoob clarified that this was put in because the opposing Labour campaign had tried to smear GG claiming that he is a "sharabi". (drunk) In addition, people often vote for political candidates based on the race, religion, social class, background of the candidate rather than the actual manifesto of the candidate. Given that the Labour camp were clearly trying to make the "He's not Asian/Muslim" campaign, it's perhaps more understandable that GG felt had to play every card at his disposal to win votes.
*http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...r-comfort-zone
Oh how sweet !
GG and Fred share something in common
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...i-Pertiwi.html
That's nice.
I hope Galloway has as happy a marriage as Fred has.
I doubt he will have much trouble commuting between London and Amsterdam as his attendance and voting participation records at Westminster have in the past been very low.
Just monkeying around.
Not that much really.
My wife is 15 years younger than me but I don't have three previous wives and (To the best of my knowledge) any kids other than Michelle.
This story raises a couple of points:
How reliable is George if he abandons his third wife and two young children?
He has a history of immoral behaviour. His second wife divorced him for bonking around.
They will be living in a 1.4 million quid house. I expect that of a Tory MP but I thought George was a man of the people. Perhaps only if they have a rolls.
The story mentions she blogs as "indonesian pricess". putri is the Indonesia word for princess.
George Galloway is a man of the people but only is they happen to be called George Galloway or he can have sex with them.
A few more reasons not to trust Galloway.
Happy marriage.
I hope so but I can't see it considering his record so far.
Still. People can change. I had "relationships" with about 40 lasses the year up to meeting Sulis.
All but three were Chinese or Malaysian Chinese except a couple of English and a Thai lass from Manchester.
Oh, and a Japanese lass who was at Manchester uni but we never made like George and a Greek lass (I assume lass but George may be open minded for all I know)
When it comes to politicians I'd rather see a man who has urge for 4 women and stops killing of another 1 million innocent people rather a happily married decent man with some children who finds his urges in killing innocent people!
I see you have penchant for women of colour...that's a lot of women fred you old dog!
I was with a lady for 15 years, a lovely lady who I usually refer to by a name the forum word filter would very probably kick back.
One day, we went to visit her father while having one of the usual steaming shouting matches in the car on the way there.
I dropped her off, drove off without a word and never saw her again.
Sort of divorce if we'd been married. As a kind chap, I posted her stuff to her dad's house.
That left me with nothing warm and soft to cuddle up to and, as a kafir with a morality most dogs would reject as disgusting, I went hunting.
I'd been visiting a Chinese take away. Food wasn't great but you should see the lass who worked the counter.
One night, I ended up with her as my take away but I didn't need the microwave to warm her up.
That lasted a couple of months but gave me a taste for the oriental. I started to pick up a bit of Mandarin and found that it sparked interest in other ladies of that tongue.
It sort of went on from there and didn't stop until I met Sulis.
The great advantages are:
They're a long way from home
Most English guys they meet are either neutral, mildly try to chat them up or are drunk and filthy mouthed to them. I went in very polite and used Mandarin. Clever me.
They were as short of a cuddle as I was because no one wanted a relationship inside the work place and they didn't get much chance of one outside. I fitted into the role nicely.
They had different days off. Some would be Sunday, some Monday and some Tuesday. I could have three on the go per week.
However, I met sulis and went cold turkey that very morning.
I'd got a date lined up with a georgeous (oops) lass from Bangladesh that very morning, had lunch with her then scarpered ASAP and I turned down an amazing Thai lass a couple of days later when I'd wandered to Ipoh in Perak.
That was the end of my career as a serious dog.
Fun at the time but I'm amazed I got away without 'social' problems in my trousers. Perhaps the big boss had other plans for me that required keeping me clean and intact.
Who knows but I know Islam, marriage to my wife and my little baby are serious blessings.
No way would I go back to my old ways.
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