Israel loves Iran

[TRUREL]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/iran...?newsfeed=true


So basically some Israeli people are saying:

A) they do not support bombing Iran;

B) they view Iran as a place where people live. Not a place where "here be monsters";

C) they think it would be nice if everyone got along.


Now.....I know that some on here believe that unless Palestine is resolved there can't be peace between Muslim and Israeli.

Einstein believed it was incumbent on people to avoid war at all costs.


And I know others believe that these people are dreamers.


But so was Martin Luther King.

[Seperatist]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/iran...?newsfeed=true


So basically some Israeli people are saying:

A) they do not support bombing Iran;

B) they view Iran as a place where people live. Not a place where "here be monsters";

C) they think it would be nice if everyone got along.


Now.....I know that some on here believe that unless Palestine is resolved there can't be peace between Muslim and Israeli.

Einstein believed it was incumbent on people to avoid war at all costs.


And I know others believe that these people are dreamers.


But so was Martin Luther King.

And look where his dreams got him...assasinated at age 39.

[gohar]

"Peace in our time" Mark 2?

[TRUREL]

And look where his dreams got him...assasinated at age 39.

And what dreams may come....

[fred]

And look where his dreams got him...assasinated at age 39.

....and a black president.

[Seperatist]

....and a black president.

He is not black he is of Dual heritage, let's not forget that his mother was white.

[CasualVisitor]

He is not black he is of Dual heritage, let's not forget that his mother was white.

Yer racist!

[TRUREL]

He is not black he is of Dual heritage, let's not forget that his mother was white.

Glass half empty kind of a guy aren't you?

[Blueprint]

Is it just me, but this video is a great piece of propaganda for Israel.

I also find it slightly patronising.

[Seperatist]

Glass half empty kind of a guy aren't you?

I wouldn't call coffee with milk black no matter what spin was applied to it, would you?

[TRUREL]

Is it just me, but this video is a great piece of propaganda for Israel.

I also find it slightly patronising.

Not sure how great the propaganda value of Israelis saying don't listen to our leaders is?

All they are saying. Is give peace a chance.

[Seperatist]

Two, one two three four
Ev'rybody's talking about
Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism, Ragism, Tagism
This-ism, that-ism, is-m, is-m, is-m.

All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance

c'mon
Ev'rybody's talking about Ministers,
Sinisters, Banisters and canisters
Bishops and Fishops and Rabbis and Pop eyes,
And bye bye, bye byes.

All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance

Let me tell you now
Ev'rybody's talking about
Revolution, evolution, masturbation,
Flagellation, regulation, integrations,
Meditations, United Nations,
Congratulations.

Ev'rybody's talking about
John and Yoko, Timmy Leary, Rosemary,
Tommy Smothers, Bobby Dylan, Tommy Cooper,
Derek Taylor, Norman Mailer,
Alan Ginsberg, Hare Krishna,
Hare, Hare Krishna!

[Simmons Victory]

Is it just me, but this video is a great piece of propaganda for Israel.

I also find it slightly patronising.

Most people on the planet want to live normal, peaceful lives, I'm sure israel has it's share, it's good to hear their voice.

[fred]

I wouldn't call coffee with milk black no matter what spin was applied to it, would you?

True, but you wouldn't call it milk either.

Given how much it bugs racists, I'm sticking to "Black president".

[CasualVisitor]

I wouldn't call coffee with milk black no matter what spin was applied to it, would you?

When it comes to "real" black then most blacks aren't black by that definition. Nubians are black. But most others are rather brown.
Is Obama brown? Or is he too pale for a brown guy?

[fred]

Is Obama brown? Or is he too pale for a brown guy?

"Can he run the US?" would seem like a more useful question.

[Seperatist]

He is half white comprendez? HALF WHITE.
A black man (or woman) comes from TWO BLACK PARENTS NOT ONE.

Here endeth the first lession.

[CasualVisitor]

He is half white comprendez? HALF WHITE.
A black man (or woman) comes from TWO BLACK PARENTS NOT ONE.

Here endeth the first lession.

So he's a zebra or what?
You sound like a promoter of "pure arianism" vs. "black power". Genetic pureness. what a load of rubbish!

How far can you trace your ancestory back? Is this the game you 'd like to play?
Obama's father was from Kenia. That alone makes him more "African-American" than all of Harlem!
Please, please, turn off that "black & white" thinking (pun intended) and turn on your brain!

[Seperatist]

So he's a zebra or what?
You sound like a promoter of "pure arianism" vs. "black power". Genetic pureness. what a load of rubbish!

How far can you trace your ancestory back? Is this the game you 'd like to play?
Obama's father was from Kenia. That alone makes him more "African-American" than all of Harlem!
Please, please, turn off that "black & white" thinking (pun intended) and turn on your brain!

One shade darker than white is black eh CV?
By calling a mixed race individual black it is actually you expressing your own inherent racist thinking....give it some thought.

[CasualVisitor]

One shade darker than white is black eh CV?
By calling a mixed race individual black it is actually you expressing your own inherent racist thinking....give it some thought.

"I am the son of a black man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas"—he both recognizes the need to heal this divide and possesses an "unyielding faith in the decency and generosity of the American people." Unlike the black leaders of recent years, Obama identified with both the winners and losers of America: "I have brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, uncles and cousins, of every race and every hue, scattered across three continents, and for as long as I live, I will never forget that in no other country on Earth is my story even possible.
....
Obama noted that by attending services there and imagining "the stories of ordinary black people merging with the stories of David and Goliath, Moses and Pharaoh, the Christians in the lion's den, Ezekiel's field of dry bones," he came to realize that "our trials and triumphs became at once unique and universal, black and more than black." With this speech—and throughout his campaign—as he merges his own story with the story of race in America, he is presenting himself also as "black and more than black." And that is a story with no ending yet.

Source
a) when it comes to colour, he is as black as most other blacks in the US. There are always different shades, but him having a white mother doesn't make him less black.
b) when it comes to heritage, he is more Afroamerican than all of the Harlem "brothers", because they have long lost their relation to Africa and are deemed Afrroamerican due to their colour only, while Obama really is Afroamerican.

Now shall we open a separate thread discussing what makes a person black or white?