New Airport Security Measures

[publicist]

Do you think the following security measures will curb the threat posed by dangerous individuals?
Or do you think these measures compromise human rights? Share your views.

Racial or religious groups could be picked out for hi-tech airport checks

The government could allow hi-tech security searches at British airports that focus on people who fit a particular profile, prompting fears that particular racial and religious groups will face increased scrutiny, it emergedtoday .

A Whitehall source told the Guardian passenger profiling was "in the mix" of the review into airport security ordered this week by Gordon Brown after the failed attempt to blow up a transatlantic jet on Christmas Day.

The development came as airline industry chiefs warned it would be impossible to screen all travellers with a new generation of body scanners the government now wants introduced at airports.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...airport-checks

Are planned airport scanners just a scam?

The explosive device smuggled in the clothing of the Detroit bomb suspect would not have been detected by body-scanners set to be introduced in British airports, an expert on the technology warned last night.

The claim severely undermines Gordon Brown's focus on hi-tech scanners for airline passengers as part of his review into airport security after the attempted attack on Flight 253 on Christmas Day.

The Independent on Sunday has also heard authoritative claims that officials at the Department for Transport (DfT) and the Home Office have already tested the scanners and were not persuaded that they would work comprehensively against terrorist threats to aviation.

.................... Mr Wallace said: "Gordon Brown is grasping at headlines if he thinks buying a couple of scanners will make us safer. It is too little, too late. Under his leadership, he starved the defence research budget that could have funded a comprehensive solution while at the same time he has weakened our border security.

"Scanners cannot provide a comprehensive solution on their own. We must now start to ask if national security demands the use of profiling."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...m-1856175.html

Alternatives to full body image scans:

On Wednesday, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) on its website advocated the use of the “Puffer,” a machine first developed by General Electric that can detect chemical particles a person may have on their body and analyze whether or not they are harmful. The machine works by blowing puffs of chemically-sensitive air around the individual.

Another potential alternative is the “Guardian,” an “explosive trace-detection portal machine” similar to the Puffer but more advanced. The sensors in the Guardian can detect chemical molecules more quickly and in hard-to-detect areas such as the inside of shoes.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2009/12...-body-scanners

[publicist]

More advocacy for profiling on The Mirror:

Searching granny is just pants..get real on terror and start profiling

This much we know – we aren’t going to stop travelling and they aren’t going to stop trying to kill us.

So what do we do? Stop pretending that every air traveller poses an equal threat.

Profiling – a controversial euphemism for common sense – would make us all safer and make travelling bearable again.

Not just race profiling but gender profiling, age profiling, geographic profiling, national profiling and travel plan profiling. The pants bomber had a one-way ticket, that should have rung a distant alarm bell in someone’s empty head.

Because it is surely self-evident by now that a man is more likely to be carrying a bomb than a woman or a child.

And that someone flying from Lagos is probably more likely to be a terrorist than someone flying from Oslo or Tokyo.

And that a traveller in his 20s is more likely to be a threat than someone in their 60s or 70s. And I don’t think it is remotely racist to say that past experience suggests Muslims are more dangerous than Buddhists.

Continued: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/columni...5875-21935842/

[europa]

As someone who has to do international travel extensively, I hate the lack of privacy but people have to be kept safe. It's ironic that these professing to be Muslims have succeeded in making modesty a thing of the past. Because of them, we have to have to undergo the intrusion, feel exposed and have no way of ensuring what happens to the images and how they may be used if not tightly controlled. As far as compromising human rights - it's a human right to live.

[Mikebloke]

I've never flown on a plane but I've been put off completely now.

Guess I'll never know what its like.

[Traveller]

I've never flown on a plane but I've been put off completely now.

Guess I'll never know what its like.

Get yourself up to the IWM Duxford. For a few Quid you can go up in a 1930's DeHaviland Dragon Rapide

[muzzylogic]

Get yourself up to the IWM Duxford. For a few Quid you can go up in a 1930's DeHaviland Dragon Rapide

...and ensure you are wearing a suitably brown shade of trousers to start with

[iraniboy]

Mikebloke! I can't believe that!! Really? Well it seems I'm quite opposite!

As someone who has to do international travel extensively, I hate the lack of privacy but people have to be kept safe. It's ironic that these professing to be Muslims have succeeded in making modesty a thing of the past. Because of them, we have to have to undergo the intrusion, feel exposed and have no way of ensuring what happens to the images and how they may be used if not tightly controlled. As far as compromising human rights - it's a human right to live.

It is a little true but considering the number of people died due to air plane terrorist attacks to deaths caused by other threats, it seems abnormally excessive and suspecious. This is true about terrorism in total. How many innocent people have been killed due to Islamic terrorism? how many have been killed due to US/K invasion of Iraq/Afghansitan?! The prerequisite to understand this comparison is to consider the live of an innocent Iraqi/Afghani equivalant to an innocent Biritsh/US citizen!

[Mikebloke]

I've never left my little Island!

How Patriotic is that!



Traveller: I might have to, before they start doing naked checks for that too ;p

[ImmortalTechnique]

I've had two long haul trips, most recently over xmas/new year period.

The hassle was the same, though i suspect next time im heading for the US it'll be more troublesome.

BTW, UK airport security is fine, the media are guilty for not mentioning enough that the alleged undearwear bomber boarded from amsterdam...ask most people they think he boarded from heathrow.

its all spin to make us comply

[publicist]

US general urges strip search of Muslim men

A retired US general and member of Iran Policy Committee (IPC) says all 18 to 28 years old Muslim men should be strip searched at airports as "one of these bombers" will explode an airliner in the coming days.

Thomas McInerney, a retired Lt. Genera with the US Air Force, told Fox News television on Saturday that within the next 30 to 120 days, "there is a danger of high probability" awaiting US airliners.

"If you are an 18 to 28-year-old Muslim man then you should be strip searched. And if we don't do that there's a very high probability we're going to lose an airline," he said.

The retired general went on to say that US officials should profile all Muslims. "We have to use profiling. And I mean be very serious and harsh about the profiling."

Asked if such a racial approach would not "generate more hatred and violence towards the West," McInerney said he did not want "a racial profile."

"I want to profile on that group that we have enough evidence from 9/11, and other [high-profile] cases that we know what we are looking at," he said.

The suggestions made by the US retied general comes on the heels of a purported bomb attack on a US transatlantic airliner on Christmas Day by Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, a Nigerian who allegedly received al-Qaeda training in Yemen.

Lawmakers and congressional leaders in the US have echoed similar sentiments by urging President Obama abandon or suspend his plan to shutter the Guantanamo Bay Prison.

Around half of the remaining Gitmo detainees are from Yemen, and of those, about 40 have been cleared for release.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id...tionid=3510203

[khilafah4islam]

Dont even believe the attack was real. Just another false flag operation to push through the agenda.

[Mikebloke]

Dont even believe the attack was real. Just another false flag operation to push through the agenda.

What I found funny was that this guy passed through about 5 different countries, on a watch list. Was on at least two planes, probably 1 or 2 others too travelling across Africa.

Guy tries it in Somalia, the country wracked by civil war for 19 years, corruption etc, caught him straight away!

[mareyah]

I am all for improved security..it is hard enough being thousand feet up in the air...but anything else Allah forbid. But things need to processed in a manner in which it will consider dignity and modesty of passengers...

And the rich and able must be included...lol their plastic surgeoned and botoxed bodies

[iraniboy]

As someone who has to do international travel extensively, I hate the lack of privacy but people have to be kept safe. It's ironic that these professing to be Muslims have succeeded in making modesty a thing of the past. Because of them, we have to have to undergo the intrusion, feel exposed and have no way of ensuring what happens to the images and how they may be used if not tightly controlled. As far as compromising human rights - it's a human right to live.

US has chosen 14 countries to go through these new security measures. Just to show you that this new measure has nothing to do with your safty and it's a bare dirty political agenda, I challenge you to find ONE SINGLE Iranian national that has ATTEMPTED to do a terorist attack in the US or elsewhere?! NULL So why Iranian citizens are included? Only because naiv people read this in the news and think that Iranians are dangerous and people have to og through these security measures due to these dangerous Iranians!!! So it's not a bad idea to get rid of them!!!

[publicist]

Obama to unveil security overhaul

The administration on Monday imposed stricter screening regulations for US-bound airline passengers from Yemen, Nigeria and 12 other countries, including possible full-body pat-downs, searches of carry-on bags, and full-body scanning.

But the "enhanced screening" rules got off to a patchy start, amid complaints of delays and discrimination.

Several European governments, including Germany, France and Spain, said they were still studying the rules before implementing them.

With 13 of the 14 nations cited by the US Transportation Security Administration (TSA) being majority Muslim states, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a Muslim civil rights and advocacy organisation, said the procedures amounted to ethnic profiling.

"Under these new guidelines, almost every American Muslim who travels to see family or friends or goes on pilgrimage to Mecca will automatically be singled out for special security checks - that's profiling," Nihad Awad, CAIR's national executive director, said in a statement.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/am...631736937.html

[europa]

SINGLE Iranian national that has ATTEMPTED to do a terorist attack in the US or elsewhere?! NULL So why Iranian citizens are included? Only because naiv people read this in the news and think that Iranians

The reason Iran is on the list is not because an Iranian has been a known terrorist in the past but beccause of Iran's record as a state sponsor of terrorism just as Syria is also on the list.

On a recent trip myself I managed to be pulled out of the line in London at the check in and twice while on a layover at Atlanta, en route to San Francisco. After I demanded to speak to a supervisor, I discovered it was because I had so many stamps in my passport for countries they are concerned about. They were impecably polite unlike a recent encounter at Addis Ababa where I got patted down( jabbed) by a thuggish female lump and where a few lessons in manners might not go amiss. So those of us who travel might as well get used to it.

[iraniboy]

The reason Iran is on the list is not because an Iranian has been a known terrorist in the past but beccause of Iran's record as a state sponsor of terrorism just as Syria is also on the list.

Even if we consider that correct that has NEVER had any direct or indirect threat to air travel so next time you saw a harsher security measures in US/K you shouldn't say it's due to your safty. It is a clear political decision for future hidden agenda.

[iraniboy]

Obama to unveil security overhaul

Racism discrimination and anti-liberal values against Muslims is increasing so fast in the west as warned by UNHR.

[waqar]

US has chosen 14 countries to go through these new security measures. Just to show you that this new measure has nothing to do with your safty and it's a bare dirty political agenda, I challenge you to find ONE SINGLE Iranian national that has ATTEMPTED to do a terorist attack in the US or elsewhere?! NULL So why Iranian citizens are included? Only because naiv people read this in the news and think that Iranians are dangerous and people have to og through these security measures due to these dangerous Iranians!!! So it's not a bad idea to get rid of them!!!

Anyone that opposes american colonial policy is deemed dangerous, they even put tiny island of cuba on list because the cubans had the honour to stand up to the gigantic colonial bully called USA.

[publicist]

Newsnight - on Profiling - with Khalid Mahmood and Majid Nawaz

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ht_04_01_2010/