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    Default Brown: Don't Say Terrorists Are Muslims

    A shift from the new PM.

    The headline says it all, but for those who don't fancy following the link

    Gordon Brown has banned ministers from using the word “Muslim” in connection with the terrorism crisis. The Prime Minister has also instructed his team – including new Home Secretary Jacqui Smith – that the phrase “war on terror” is to be dropped.

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    Hopefully, this will be a fresh start in Muslim/Brit. Government relations.


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    The phase 'war on terror' blair was advised to drop it, way back end of last year.

    Obviously blair didn't - well done Brown, war on terror, is synonymous with 'war on muslim'

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    totally agree " war on terror " is a fox news type hype ..its most un-british

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacenik View Post
    What would you suggest, IR ?

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    anti-terrorist operations ..its not a war and its not constant terror , these morons are mostly an inconveinence who should be treated as such by the general public
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irreligion View Post
    anti-terrorist operations ..its not a war and its not constant terror , these morons are mostly an inconveinence who should be treated as such by the general public
    Would you agree that it was also an anti-terrorist operation in regards to the arrests of the BNP (on similar charges), IR ?

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    Oh finnaaallllyyy! Sumone who makes sense..! Its little things lyk this that will help and perk people up a bit

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    I wonder if the media will drop the phrase "war on terror" so easily? I'm sick to the back teeth of the phrase personally. How can you have a war against a noun??

    Of course, there's a rage on the Express about the move.

    And, at the risk of repeating myself today, there's a fair point or two made here
    http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/10/353458.html?c=on

    Smacks of a couple of decades of intense suspicion (and many arrests) of Irish Catholics on the basis of the actions of some criminals.

    I think it's about time that the government considered a number of issues facing this country in the wake of the actions of a handful of Muslim people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by termin8or View Post
    A shift from the new PM.

    The headline says it all, but for those who don't fancy following the link

    Gordon Brown has banned ministers from using the word “Muslim” in connection with the terrorism crisis. The Prime Minister has also instructed his team – including new Home Secretary Jacqui Smith – that the phrase “war on terror” is to be dropped.

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    hallajuya!!! (is that how you spell it?)
    Absolutely right terrorism has nothing to do with Islam. Am forming different views on him ....(if he could just revoke S.R's knighthood then Id even consider voting labour!!!)

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    Brown is trying to cool things down. No more talking down to us like Bliar and his cronies did. We have to respond positively - perhaps we can now face-down the Muhajiloons?

    Maybe the press will follow suit and be more responsible - perhaps the Daily Mail might even sack rabid Zionist Neocon Melanie Phillips! We can dream!

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    Wow...small changes make big differences!

    This is such a positive step. What a good move.

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    It's not just nouns we must face, but adjectives too. Even some adverbs are now a threat to our liberty. The word 'suspiciously' has long been considered untrustworthy, for example.

    On a more serious note, I was pleasantly surprised to see the blatant toning down of the Labour line. Very glad indeed John 'Attack Dog' Reid is out of office.

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    Well done Gordon. His wife speaks Bengali.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nishath_786 View Post
    Well done Gordon. His wife speaks Bengali.
    And he is Scottish!! Things can only get better

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    V interesting discussion on this on R4 Today programme this morning - did anybody else hear it? Apparently, the govt are also dropping the terms 'terrorist' and 'war on terror', and plan only to use murderers or criminals to refer to the bombers.

    There were a few people discussing the difficulties of finding a word to refer to the groups and/or ideology involved that doesn't include the words 'Islam' or 'Muslim'. Apparently 'Islamist' is supposed to refer specifically to the ideology espoused by the bombers and their scholarly supporters, but obviously it's far too similar to Islamic etc for peole to see the distinction and will only cause confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prometheus View Post
    V interesting discussion on this on R4 Today programme this morning - did anybody else hear it? Apparently, the govt are also dropping the terms 'terrorist' and 'war on terror', and plan only to use murderers or criminals to refer to the bombers.

    There were a few people discussing the difficulties of finding a word to refer to the groups and/or ideology involved that doesn't include the words 'Islam' or 'Muslim'. Apparently 'Islamist' is supposed to refer specifically to the ideology espoused by the bombers and their scholarly supporters, but obviously it's far too similar to Islamic etc for peole to see the distinction and will only cause confusion.
    What seems to have surfaced are some who are outraged that they can't box a whole community under one term. It complicates things for their small minds. People have been comfortable with the thought that muslims are synonomous with terrorists..especially the tabloid readers.

    It's an important step but I do wonder if it's a step too much for the racist bigoted and small minded people in the UK. Hence it may backfire against Gordon Brown. Only time will tell.

    I see it as a positive move that muslims will not all be labelled together with the actions of these 'aggressive murderous men'. It will also reduce the time muslims use to explain that terrorism has nothing to do with being a muslim. Gordon has done it for us. Hence this is progress

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacenik View Post
    Would you agree that it was also an anti-terrorist operation in regards to the arrests of the BNP (on similar charges), IR ?
    no i agree with the police..anti terrorism has to pass and satisfy the CPS ..If the met police bring somone up on anti-terrorism charges which are borderline then the cps and or court could dismiss the whole thing , thus your BNP moron walks away scot free ..im not so sure why i have to explain that to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faith28 View Post
    What seems to have surfaced are some who are outraged that they can't box a whole community under one term. It complicates things for their small minds. People have been comfortable with the thought that muslims are synonomous with terrorists..especially the tabloid readers.

    It's an important step but I do wonder if it's a step too much for the racist bigoted and small minded people in the UK. Hence it may backfire against Gordon Brown. Only time will tell.

    I see it as a positive move that muslims will not all be labelled together with the actions of these 'aggressive murderous men'. It will also reduce the time muslims use to explain that terrorism has nothing to do with being a muslim. Gordon has done it for us. Hence this is progress
    I think it's a good thing that the subject is coming up for discussion in this much more nuanced way. I can't say I've seen any sign of people being 'outraged' by this, but then I tend to avoid the tabloids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehaam View Post
    Absolutely right terrorism has nothing to do with Islam.
    So Alan Johnson's kidnappers weren't Muslim Jihadists? I suppose Johnson was just lying when he said they were. "In the words of their captive, they were not interested in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, they wanted to target Britain in the name of a global holy war." (From BBC news).

    Or maybe kidnapping Johnson wasn't terrorism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rehaam View Post
    Am forming different views on him ....(if he could just revoke S.R's knighthood then Id even consider voting labour!!!)
    I suppose revoking Rushdie's knighthood would be your contribution to good community relations, would it? How about revoking Iqbal Sacranie's instead (of "maybe death's too lenient" fame)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prometheus View Post
    I think it's a good thing that the subject is coming up for discussion in this much more nuanced way. I can't say I've seen any sign of people being 'outraged' by this, but then I tend to avoid the tabloids.
    Oh good..it must be just the tabloid readers then. If you read hte comments of those below the link of the OP then you'll see what I'm referring to.

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