Mecca's History under attack
Read this and weep.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/saudi_mecca_dc
I long for the day Wahabism/Najdism collapses. Inshallah that day is coming closer. The lovers of the Prophet will rise.MECCA, Saudi Arabia (Reuters) - Some of Islam's historic sites in Mecca, possibly including a home of the Prophet Mohammad, are under threat from Saudi real estate developers and Wahhabi Muslims who view them as promoting idolatry.
haha you stupid mushrik saint worshipper!
living in saudi you tend to learn WHY thngs like this happen lets have a look shall we:
1) first some idiotic SUFIS decided to pray inside the prophets house because they thought something special was in it
2) the mutawi'i banned people coming in so they decided to pray towards it instead of the kabah
3) they destroyed the home and believe it or not people actually PRAYED ON THE LAND thinking its special
i say again: a significant number if not ALL the mujahideen are salafi. i certainly hope you arent waiting for their downfall.They fear other Muslims will come to see these buildings as blessed and this could lead to polytheism and idolatry.
on the issue of the real estate: this i agree is stupid it shouldnt be used for wealth. but this is a ruling more to do with the taaghout than other muslims.
i dont listen to anything you say anymore seeing as you dont even know the difference between salafi and khawarij. making you officially an IDIOT.
so go put on your taweez with your fez and give a nice twirl you idiotic sufi saint worshipper.
and like i said before.. you want a debate?? go to the tibyan forums and i dont htink you have done so yet.
la'nat allah alaik.
baro your language it unacceptable control your self.
Straight after this article you attack me, don't you feel any anger at what the Wahabis are doing???
They are criminals and crooks, thats all there is to it. I can't believe this sort of thing is happening in Arabia. The birthplace of the Prophet.
Angawi estimated that over the past 50 years at least 300 historical buildings had been leveled in Mecca and Medina, another Muslim holy city containing the prophet's tomb.I can't believe you stand by the Wahabis when they do this.The Washington-based Saudi Institute, an independent news gathering group, says most Islamic landmarks have been destroyed since Saudi Arabia was founded in 1932. It cited a 1994 edict by the kingdom's senior council of religious scholars which ruled that preserving historical buildings might lead to polytheism.
Angawi, who founded the Haj Research Center in 1975 to study and preserve Mecca and Medina's rich history, claims to have identified a home of the Prophet Mohammad. But he is reluctant to publicize its location fearing it would be demolished like DAR al Arqam -- the first school in Islam where the prophet taught.
In London, Geoffrey King, Islamic art and archeology specialist at the School of Oriental and African and Studies, said the fate of Islamic historic sites in Saudi Arabia was "depressing."
"The religious authorities have failed to appreciate the significance of these buildings to Muslims and scholars worldwide," said King, who taught for several years in the kingdom and stressed many young Saudis agreed with him
...??? subhan'Allah ...who needs enemies to divide us?Originally Posted by barodate
he calls wahabbis crooks criminals and has this proper dodgy interpretation of ONE hadith which he thinks makes wahabis some sort of deadly force.
now when he insults wahabis. he insults me, my family and my friends.
i dont see why i should control my self for a self proclaimed mushrik
i already gave an example of the sufi idiocies which occured you havent even addressed a single point.
BARO he made legitmate points about historical bulidings being destroyed you didnt address them with proof you just attacked him personally, calling him a mushrik is esp unacceptable..pls apologise you also made assumptions about sufis and were as offensive to them as he was to Wahabis can you pls tone it down and discuss this rationally and no more personal insults.
if you do not adhere i will close thread.
Just because of the alleged idocies of a few 'sufis' i dont think we shoudl all be deprived of our religious/hisotrical heritage.
Baro you think things are too back and white all Wahabis are great and never wrong all sufis are bad and anyone who disagress with you is esp bad!
Defender pls do not defame wahabis/salafis again, constructive critisim is different.
i already gave reasons why they were destroyed and i call him mushrik because anyone who worships saints is a mushrik.
what assumptions?assumptions about sufis
please do. he attacks salafies/wahabi which i have said before means people who are close to me ASWELL as the sheikhs and scholors makkah but i get the rap and there is no complaint against him.if you do not adhere i will close thread.
if it were a few then i would have said a few. ask any sufi about the prophet he will say something stupid like "he is made of light". i wonder why DOT doesnt explain why mutawi' dont lett the kaabah cloth reach the bottom.... ill tell you why, once again sufis decided to rip the cloth an place it in taweez, another item of shirk.Just because of the alleged idocies of a few 'sufis' i dont think we shoudl all be deprived of our religious/hisotrical heritage.
how am i the one that sees thing in black and white when its this idiot who doesnt even look at the reasons as to why they are levelling some buildings.Baro you think things are too back and white
no i am open to different views but if while explaining your point of view you are going to insult me then why should i give a toss about what he thinks?all Wahabis are great and never wrong all sufis are bad and anyone who disagress with you is esp bad!
and to me yes any sufi is an idiot. how can they claim to be on the straight path when they decided to become a seperate group from the way of the prophet after the prophets death? a bit like shiaism. there used to be one way of the prophet and after his death they decided to be an offshoot so how can they be of the straight path?
meh... last reply to this stupid thread. lets hope its closed.
you accused him of worshipping saints he most certianly does not confirm this so you are making assumptions.i already gave reasons why they were destroyed and i call him mushrik because anyone who worships saints is a mushrik.
im closing this thread but i am sorry the Saudis are so desperate to destroy history and deprive all of us just because a few people did something wrong.
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