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    Sister describes trauma of Forest Gate terror raid
    Guardian

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    Tuesday June 13, 2006


    The sister of the two men arrested in the east London anti-terror raid today described how she had feared that the family was being attacked by armed burglars.Mohammed Abdul Kahar, 23, was shot in the shoulder during the raid, which happened in the early hours of June 2. His 20-year-old brother, Abul Koyair, said police did not identify themselves after bursting into the family home in Forest Gate.

    The brothers - who deny any involvement with terrorism - were held at Paddington Green police station until being released without charge on Friday.

    Their sister, Humeya Kalam, said she had been "petrified" during the operation, in which police were looking for a suspected bomb factory.

    Her brothers will speak about their experiences at a press conference later today as pressure on the Metropolitan police commissioner, Sir Ian Blair, increases.

    Ms Kalam said the family were trying to recover from the ordeal, and told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that police had "just stormed in".

    "It was pitch dark, then there was light and guns everywhere," she said. "They were dragging innocent people to the floor, guns to their heads, handcuffing.

    "I heard doors being smashed, windows being broken. I woke up, opened my door and saw a person dressed all in black, gun pointing towards me.

    "I shut the door. The door was banged open and a person shouted: 'On the floor! On the floor!' The next thing I knew, I am on the floor, petrified, handcuffed."

    She said the police had not identified themselves "until I left the house".

    "I was dragged down the stairs into the police van," she said. "When I saw the police van, obviously I realised these were police. I thought they were armed burglars and I was going to die."

    Ms Kalam said the only reason she could think of for the family being targeted in a raid involving 250 police officers was their race.

    "We are just a normal, average family. We don't know why this happened," she said. "I'm just as much bemused as everyone else.

    "You would not expect to be woken up at four o'clock in the morning with a gun in your face. The only difference, I'm assuming, is that I am not white."

    Ms Kalam said she did not see the incident in which her brother was shot, but said he would give details of what happened. She added that the brothers were "not even thinking about compensation at this point".

    "I am thinking about my brother's recovery," she said. "Health comes before any sort of money. Money can't restore his health. They are in a considerable amount of pain, both physically and mentally."

    The leader of senior police officers in England and Wales yesterday tried to rally support for the Metropolitan police commissioner, saying those rushing to judge Sir Ian - who has faced calls to resign - risked "encouraging" terrorists.

    Ken Jones, the president of the Association of Chief Police Officers, said Sir Ian had become a "lightning rod" for the shock and anger that followed the July 7 London bombings.

    Both Tony Blair and Ken Livingstone stressed their support for the commissioner yesterday, and the prime minister said he had "complete confidence" in him.

    Sir Ian has been under increasing pressure over both the east London the raid and the fatal shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes by anti-terrorism police at Stockwell underground station, in south London, last year.



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    The LIVE press conference is on NOW!!! go watch it!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5074164.stm

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    Sugar! I'm at work!

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    Im watching it now, thanks Zesty.......

    these guys look proper vexed man!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gee...(London)
    Im watching it now, thanks Zesty.......

    these guys look proper vexed man!!
    Dammit! i missed it i watched till the bit he goes i work in tesco and im hard working and then some woman rang me from one of the radio stations and yapped away for 25 minutes cos she wants me to come on the radio and talk about islam and hijab and muslims in the media! (How do i manage to get roped into these things alll the time)??!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zesty
    Dammit! i missed it i watched till the bit he goes i work in tesco and im hard working and then some woman rang me from one of the radio stations and yapped away for 25 minutes cos she wants me to come on the radio and talk about islam and hijab and muslims in the media! (How do i manage to get roped into these things alll the time)??!?!
    What? Are you talking about yourself or the guy who got shot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salaam
    What? Are you talking about yourself or the guy who got shot?
    eehh.. did i confuse you? Im saying i missed the rest of the press conference cos some woman rang me about coming onto the radio to speak about being a young muslim in britain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zesty
    eehh.. did i confuse you? Im saying i missed the rest of the press conference cos some woman rang me about coming onto the radio to speak about being a young muslim in britain.
    Really? How did she get hold of your number?

    So you going to do it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salaam
    Really? How did she get hold of your number?

    So you going to do it?
    LOL! i did something very similar last year- when i was in undergrad i got roped into going with a few other mates to have a discussion on the 7th july bombings. The somehow convinced me last year and the woman still had my number clearly! (funnily enough i was just thinking about that experince a couple of days ago)!
    Anyway she still had my number so rang me just now saying we'd like a discussion or interview a year on kinda thing.. hhmm.. yeh i'll prolly do it. I always end up saying yes.

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    I watched the whole press conference and im absoloutely shocked at the way the brothers were treated by the cops, its pathetic!! The cops have seriously got many questions that need to be answered.
    One of them was even asked whether hes a member of the KKK, i mean hello, do they look like members???

    I just feel so much for them, especially Mohammed Abdul Kahar, nobody shud go through what he, his brother and theyre family experienced. I mean theyre lives have been completely ruined and the psychological trauma is gonna take a long time to get over, thats if they ever do get over it. May allah make it easy for them Inshallah.
    Last edited by sista; 13-06-2006 at 03:30 PM.

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    The woman who went to visit their house lately said that it has holes all over the walls, the shower cubic has been dug to check if there is anything under there, how will they ever return to that house.

    I cant believe the police chief is still in his job after this, I mean these guys were totally innocent. totally

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    Quote Originally Posted by sista
    I watched the whole press conference and im absoloutely shocked at the way the brothers were treated by the cops, its pathetic!! The cops have seriously got many questions that need to be answered.
    One of them was even asked whether hes a member of the KKK, i mean hello, do they look like members???

    I just feel so much for them, especially Mohammed Abdul Kahar, nobody shud go through what he, his brother and theyre family experienced. I mean theyre lives have been completely ruined and the psychological trauma is gonna take a long time to get over, thats if they ever do get over it. May allah make it easy for them Inshallah.
    I agree sis, the poor guy looked really distressed by the whole experience! The way the cops have handled this is absolutely atrocious. The problem is the police get alot of the blame whereas the intelligence seems to hide away. Yet they are just as much if not moreso to blame!
    I was abit confused at the KKK insinuation too! are they quite simple mad?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gee...(London)
    The woman who went to visit their house lately said that it has holes all over the walls, the shower cubic has been dug to check if there is anything under there, how will they ever return to that house.

    I cant believe the police chief is still in his job after this, I mean these guys were totally innocent. totally
    U know i totally agree with u, Sir Ian Blair, in my opinion needs to resign, hes hopeless.

    What got to me the most was the fact that these lads who have been livin in that house for 20 years are scared to go back home, Abdul Qahar said that he cant bear to see those stairs that he was shot on again, because thats wer he was almost killed

    & they were the so called terrorists, the cops have done nothin but terrorise these young lads and their families and i sincerely hope that justice will inshallah be done

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    Who's going the repair the damage done to the house?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zesty
    The way the cops have handled this is absolutely atrocious. The problem is the police get alot of the blame whereas the intelligence seems to hide away. Yet they are just as much if not moreso to blame!

    I dunno, although the intelligence are to blame because obviously there was no factual basis to the intelligence, i believe that in this particular incident the cops are more to blame, cos they were the ones who went in all guns blazing (literally). They were the ones who shot the guy and beat him afterwards, they were the ones who pressurised the medics to release him from hospital wen he was in no fit state & they were the ones who tore the house apart.

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    Yes absolutely, like i said- they handled it very badly.

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    SubhanALLAH those brothers are amazing.

    Did you see how AbdulQahhar got emotional when he mentioned how his mother was screaming when she came out the house. A son is a son like him - mashaALLAH.

    And when he mentioned how he works FT with royal mail and PT with tesco - mashaALLAH. They always bang on abt how we need to work and get involved in society and mashaALLAH this brother was doing atleast 56 hours a week and look how he is treated.

    Qasam Im so pleased they did that press conference.

    And then the younger brother - Abul Koyair (?) - goes that wen his bruv got shot he was thinking why didnt they shoot me instead!! MashaALLAH a beautiful family - may ALLAH grant them good in this world and in the hereafter - ameen./

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    Its 2006 I think its about time the police had video cameras strapped on them for every raid, certainly every armed officer and at every stage of holding people. Theres no excuse not to do this the cameras cost next to nothing and they could easily afford this for high-profile raids. If the police have nothing to hide then this will help them, especially since for example in Canada the recently arrested terrorism suspects are claiming they were abused already and people are point out that this is described in the Al'Qaeda training manual. Video cameras protect everyone in these situations.

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    u know i think the most saddest bit was when he said...

    ...he got shot and then despite the fact they knew he was injured they continues to beat him. cops were acting like some sorta thugs.
    the way they behaved was like wild animals.

    the poor guy was lying there injured and the policeman kicked him on the head and swore at him.

    he was dragged down the stairs and sworn at and thrown outside on the pavement . and all this whilst he had just been shot a few minutes ago.

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    and next time any of u guys think of grassin up ur muslim brothers think again.

    this guy was a victim and he could have died. allahu alam who the informer was but most probably it was muslim. all this happened coz of him.

    so think again before u go to the police. the brother could have been dead because of some munaafiq.

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