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br ash
13-04-2005, 03:37 PM
Cherie helps Oona's fight

By Paul Waugh Deputy Political Editor, Evening Standard
13 April 2005

Cherie Blair urged Labour voters to give anti-war campaigner George Galloway a "bloody nose" in the general election.

In a rare foray into frontline party politics, the Prime Minister's wife called on residents in Bethnal Green and Bow to help sitting MP Oona King defeat Mr Galloway.

Mrs Blair launched her attack on one of her husband's fiercest critics when she turned up at a new Bangladeshi restaurant for a Labour fundraising dinner.


Mrs Blair was introduced as a "superstar" guest before leaping onto a small platform to deliver a withering condemnation of Mr Galloway and his anti-war Respect party.

Respect poses a real threat to Ms King's 10,000 majority by appealing to an alliance of voters upset by the Iraq war - including middle-class whites and working-class Asians.

Ms King claims that a vote for Respect could let the secondplaced Tories steal the seat, but Mrs Blair called for Labour voters to turn out in force to see off Mr Galloway. "I'm sure his mother loves him," she said of Mr Galloway, who has moved from his Labour seat in Glasgow to fight in the East End.

"But give George Galloway a bloody nose."

Her voice reaching a crescendo, the barrister, judge and mother of four added: "Make Oona's majority even bigger this time round."

Special Branch officers were at the door of the Zeera restaurant, which provided a takeaway for the International Olympic Committee in February.

Mr Galloway was canvassing in Brick Lane when he heard of Mrs Blair's comments. "Rather colourful language for a High Court judge, but I think she might be proved wrong," he said.

The battle for Bethnal Green is proving one of the most vicious and personal in the election, with eggs thrown at Ms King at one event and the candidates trading insults.

Respect is consulting its lawyers after Ms King wrote to constituents enclosing a postal ballot application form to be returned free of charge to her office. The practice appears to contravene new guidelines to send postal votes direct to their local returning officer. mine in italic THIS IS CHEATING, Imagine people sending in their votes, if it has a cross marked Galloway, it may get Misplaced.

The Prime Minister's wife is the latest high-profile figure to try to boost Labour in the seat. Gordon Brown, John Prescott and Charles Clarke have all visited.


This is how mush the Labour Hierarchy value Oona Phoona. For her services rendered in not voting against Iraq in 1998 and being for the war in 2003. And also for not voting against Israel, i.e. when the issue regarding the illegal wall was set up, in occupied Palestine.


Salaam


Ash.

ayesha
13-04-2005, 03:51 PM
Thanks for info dude!

Damn, Zionist Ooooona has got 'em all wrapped round her lil finger, She must go! Muslims of Bethnel Green - make sure you vote her out.

But also vote strategically, do u honestly think Galloway has a chance to win? :eek: Don't let your vote be split...the Tory candidate could then get in!

salaams

br ash
13-04-2005, 04:16 PM
Thanks for info dude!

Damn, Zionist Ooooona has got 'em all wrapped round her lil finger, She must go! Muslims of Bethnel Green - make sure you vote her out.

But also vote strategically, do u honestly think Galloway has a chance to win? :eek: Don't let your vote be split...the Tory candidate could then get in!

salaams

To me any thing is better than Oona Phoona. George Galloway much better chance, if he does not the people of will have Conservative Muslim canidate. Which is a still a Million times better than Oona Phoona. Or do you want to reward Oona Phoon by default.

Salaam

Ash

kosovan
13-04-2005, 04:26 PM
If George Galloway is elected Bethnal Green will effectively be without an MP.
Look at his voting record.
He only voted in 1% of votes.

br ash
13-04-2005, 04:32 PM
If George Galloway is elected Bethnal Green will effectively be without an MP.
Look at his voting record.
He only voted in 1% of votes.

I am not bothered.

Saying that the most important issues effecting Muslims, he has voted on, that is what counts, nothing more nothing less.


Salaam


Ash

br ash
13-04-2005, 04:36 PM
Put it this way oona phoona says one things and does something else. Even on Palestinian matters, when these issues were raised in the Parliament, she did not vote against the Apartheid wall, that all Oona phoon fans must really respect her for.


Salaam


Ash

kosovan
13-04-2005, 04:37 PM
Nonsense - he just doesn't vote.
On the terrorism act,on top up fees,on blasphemy laws -nothing
Behtnal Green will not have an MP

br ash
13-04-2005, 04:47 PM
Nonsense - he just doesn't vote.
On the terrorism act,on top up fees,on blasphemy laws -nothing
Behtnal Green will not have an MP


Again I am not bothered, he represented Muslim Issues. But then What is Oona Phoona record on the above:D


Salaam


Ash.

br ash
13-04-2005, 04:48 PM
Even on Palestinian matters, when these issues were raised in the Parliament, Oona Phoona did not vote against the Apartheid wall, that all Oona phoon fans must really respect her for. That is a Fact

salaam

ash

kosovan
13-04-2005, 04:55 PM
So you don't want an MP.
How did George Galloway vote on increasing the minimum wage?

br ash
13-04-2005, 05:52 PM
So you don't want an MP.
How did George Galloway vote on increasing the minimum wage?

first of all i am not bothered about How George voted on Minimum wage, i am sure you will provide the evidence.

I do not want Oona Phoona that is all, nothing more nothing less.


In terms of economics am i believe in free market forces. Despite positive advantages of the minimum wages it has disadvantages. Number of companies that were forced into Minimum wage, now on average pay less, simply by not paying a higher salary, for longer service and experience. As they say what you are given with one hand, its taken away with another. Some firms need to may extra towards Pension, now they do not. In the long-term very people what this exercise was to benefit have lost out in the longer term.

And particularly number of Asian companies, only employ people for Part time basis, making there employees work harder for the same wage.

Yes in their hands they may feel well off, overall has not made that much significant, piety, it would have been good for the economy.

Salaam

Ash

kosovan
13-04-2005, 06:41 PM
So your politics are those of an anti zionist tory rather than an anti imperialist Stalinist.Yet you intend to vote for a stalinist.

By the way Galloway couldn't be bothered to turn up and vote.

JIHADI-JEDI
13-04-2005, 07:37 PM
Kosovan,

One must fight the battle in order to prepare for the war.

br ash
13-04-2005, 07:38 PM
So your politics are those of an anti zionist tory rather than an anti imperialist Stalinist.Yet you intend to vote for a stalinist.

By the way Galloway couldn't be bothered to turn up and vote.


You are indeed a joker, i do not live in the constituency, and therefore I can not vote in Galloway. :D:D

If lived there i would have voted Conservative. Saying that i would have understood and respected all the people who would have voted for Galloway. In my Family majority would have, voted Galloway.

And disrespected all there jokers who voted for oona phoona:D

Salaam

ash

kosovan
13-04-2005, 08:40 PM
Which war is that then?

Oh and by the way Ash which conservative policies do you prefer to Labours?

nishath_786
14-04-2005, 10:22 AM
Br Ash - Oona called for sanctions on Israel in Parliament. She wrote questions to the Govt regarding the treatment of Palestinians.

What's Galloway actually DONE in Parliament? Not a lot. I (as a constituent) want someone that will represent me. I've argued about the war with her, but her views on Palestine are one of her strong points amongst the community, that's why Galloway only bleats on about the war. He KNOWS that they share views on Palestine.

br ash
14-04-2005, 01:55 PM
Br Ash - Oona called for sanctions on Israel in Parliament. She wrote questions to the Govt regarding the treatment of Palestinians.

What's Galloway actually DONE in Parliament? Not a lot. I (as a constituent) want someone that will represent me. I've argued about the war with her, but her views on Palestine are one of her strong points amongst the community, that's why Galloway only bleats on about the war. He KNOWS that they share views on Palestine.

What she says and what she does to different things, Look Oona Phoon lemming say many lies, then unfortunately misguided individuals like you fall for it. Just like when she said, i did not vote for the Iraq war in 1998, she did not vote against it. FACT.


Look at the issue of the Apartheid wall, she did not vote against that either in Parliment:D She is Pro Palestinian, get a life. Which planet are you living on Brother? :D

I must credit to Oona Phoona lemmings for there effective propaganda, you have seemed to fallen for it, a piety, it would be nice that you have not fallen for her lies. But then is your choice brother.


Salaam


Ash

kosovan
14-04-2005, 02:10 PM
Which vote in parliament are you talking about and how did Galloway vote in it?

br ash
14-04-2005, 03:21 PM
Which vote in parliament are you talking about and how did Galloway vote in it?

my apologies i am wrong. I read this many well over a year ago, and mistook it for vote.

Going through my files, looking for the article in question, it was an Early Day Motion. Please accept my apologies for the error, defiantly geting old, in my old age:D

Galloway signed up to it, with over 200 other MPs.


early day motion (EDM) is a method used by MPs to publicise the views on issue, this also demonstrates the extent of how far an MP supports a particular cause. If you are so Pro for the Palestine cause, you would clearly demonstrates you point of view on that issue. There has a been number of these in the Houses of Parliament, on the Palestinian matters.

Oona Phoon pudding and pie gave the finger to the Palestinian cause. That how much she cares.

If one cares investigate Oona Phoona by some of the early day motions on Palestinian matters, she has given the finger to the Palestinian cause.


Salaam


Ash

br ash
14-04-2005, 03:25 PM
one of the early day motions from the following sites: http://edm.ais.co.uk/weblink/html/motion.html/ref=308

Salaam


ash

grisly_adams
14-04-2005, 07:15 PM
Daughter of respected anti-racist campaigner.

Open minded and very, very New Labourish.

Only MPAC would suggest she can't represent her muslim constituents concerns in parliament because she happens to be Jew...., sorry, i mean a 'zionist'.

As far as Blairs 'madness' in helping his on MP goes, lets look at other aspects of the recent Blairite campaign.

The posters depicting Howard as Fagin and him and Letwin as 'flying pigs'.

MPAC of course clearly rejected this shameless attempt to play on your prejudices, and remind you all that Howard and Letwin, are indeed Jews. Although i did notice, 'MPAC Alert: Zionists secret attempt to take over the Conservative Party'.
He is a good guitar player you know, Blair used to be in a band. Plays you all like a banjo.

Another clear rejection of Blairs shameless attempts to buy your votes - ' the religous 'hatred' bill.
Orwellian in nature and completely unBritish. Even had Blackadder coming out and saying how silly it was. Although i did notice a candidates support for this Nazi legislation is one of issues on your own electoral support checklist.

Anyone else think its silly to talk about how anti-terror laws are creating a police state, and then turning a blind eye to comedians being arrested for making jokes about Jesus? Just me then.

Alan Milburn throws your community leaders, and they lap it up. :D

The only way to dump Blair is voting Conservative. Thats just Our electoral system guys. Not by rallying support for a communist like Galloway :nono:

St. George
14-04-2005, 07:16 PM
It strikes me as odd that you choose how to vote based on other countries. Israel, Palastine or Iraq. Isn't it more important how the M.P would serve Britain?

Yahya
14-04-2005, 07:24 PM
Guess what St. G...

The way this country behaves in the world does affect Britain. If we stood against the US and Israel we would be more respected and we'd be much safer. Or do you think Britain's foreign policy is nothing to do with the democratic process.

grisly_adams
14-04-2005, 07:43 PM
Good point George. But when you say, i find it odd 'you will vote..'.

Remember this is just a selective sample of people.

Electoral history and common sense show the overwhelming majority of people (including the majority of muslims) will vote blue, red or yellow by estimating how party policy will affect their local school and hospital.

Indeed, the idea that thousands of muslims will desert the Labour Party because of Iraq is laughable. If middle eastern affairs concerned them to such an extent, trust me when i say, they would not even be here. They are a long way away from such concerns. People moved to Britain for economic oppurtunity. Money.

The same concern will determine this election. Not how many eggs war veterans get pelted with.

St. George
14-04-2005, 07:49 PM
You make a good point but... most of the talk on this thread concerns local MP's and not the party or cabinet. True Britain has allowed itself to be reviled along side the U.S. I no longer live in Britain so i hear views from many people from other nations and what i hear makes me sad sometimes. But still it's a damn fine place.

One thing. You said safer. Safer from whom?

St. George
14-04-2005, 07:52 PM
Thanks G A. That makes sense. I must say this a good forum. I belong to a few where just spolling a word wrong invites people to crash down on you.

Yahya
14-04-2005, 07:56 PM
We enter a war and that means people will fight us. I've wanted to visit Iraq for a long time but I can't. I've got a British passport and look European. I go to the Middle East a lot and I don't like to be blamed for the actions of my government.

9/11 was the direct result of US policy in the Middle East. No blind support for Israel - No retribution.

As for the rest. This is a forum to unite Muslims on issues of common concern. People here have different opinions on the economy, NHS etc. I guess that's why "foreign" issues get prominence.

grisly_adams
14-04-2005, 08:08 PM
We enter a war and that means people will fight us. I've wanted to visit Iraq for a long time but I can't. I've got a British passport and look European. I go to the Middle East a lot and I don't like to be blamed for the actions of my government.

9/11 was the direct result of US policy in the Middle East. No blind support for Israel - No retribution.

As for the rest. This is a forum to unite Muslims on issues of common concern. People here have different opinions on the economy, NHS etc. I guess that's why "foreign" issues get prominence.

This blind support for Isreal?

Like in 2000, US Aid to Isreal was a whopping 4% of Isreali GDP.

And when Jimmy Carter convinced Menachem Begin to relinquish Sinai for the sake of peace with Egypt.

The Israelis have always resisted American pressure to negotiate with the Palastinians. Indeed, when Isreal invaded Lebanon, it was an American peace keeping force that prevented an escalation to the conflict.

Yahya
15-04-2005, 11:07 AM
GA
Try and look at this from the Arab/Muslim perspective as well as the US/Israeli one.

America's support isn't just financial (although if you include soft loans, direct military aid, discounts on old equipment and tax relief on WZO donations the figure is a lot higher than you suggest.) America also protects Israel politically, diplomatically and militarily.

The world should be uniting to make Israel comply with international law, just like it united against apartheid. The USA is the number 1 obstacle to this process.

Now before someone brings up the human rights shortcomings of America's Arab/Muslim friends and enemies, let me say, we all agree.

The West has a particular responsibility over Israel because they are particularily to blame. If Britain today renounced the Balfour declaration and led a European campaign for sanctions on Israel, Britain would be greatly respected for it in the Arab/Muslim world.

Read the Israeli press. America has more influence there than anywhere else. Except for the lunatic fringe, Irsaeli politicans of all stripes care deeply about American opinion. Why else would they work so hard to keep it on their side.

America knows how to twist arms. It knows how to use the big stick. So why is Israel handled with kid gloves? Why does the President have to "persuade" Israel? Does he feel he has to persuade us? No, we have to do as we're told or face the consequences.

That fact that Americans can't even perceive a double-standard is worrying. Until they understand the other guy's point of view, there's not much hope for peace.

UmmZakariya
15-04-2005, 11:27 AM
Only MPAC would suggest she can't represent her muslim constituents concerns in parliament because she happens to be Jew...., sorry, i mean a 'zionist'.

i find this quite slanderous we would never tell people vote or not to vote for someone based on their religion (pls see our platform guide these are the issues that matter to us) the fact that she is Jewish is of no consequence the fact is she was pro-war (he constituents didnt like that) and whether or not she is a Zionist that has to be weighed up to some she is also pro-palestinian, to others she jetted off there to show her support after the Iraq war which many Zionists saw as suspect and an attempt to bolster her poplularity, we had similar concerns...MPACUK simply want her constituency to be active and make the decision as to whether she represents their views or not..there are pro-oona people on here and they have good reasons as do those who do not support her....its their decision MPACUK can only advise and urge people to follow their Islamic ideals and the democratic process...

once more pls note what is said on this forum cannot be considered mpacuk policy ...i strongly dispute your above comment which insinuates we discriminate on religious affliation and/or are anti-semitic. Similarly i think it is very offensive of you to state that Labour can buy Muslims votes through an anti-semitic poster campaign, the assertion is Muslims are pleased by anti-semitism..again this just shows your woeful ignorance, prejudice and stereotypical attitude towards our community.

grisly_adams
15-04-2005, 07:06 PM
Very high and mighty indeed.
www.mpacuk.org/content/view/371/101/
This link. 'Conservatives secret attempt to take over the conservative party'.
An MPAC alert. This is a reflection MPAC itself.
Just look at that picture, and tell me you don't think its disgusting and hateful.
There is something positive about this Alert though. It exposes reality.
Moves are underway to prevent Channel 4 from advertising Sharia TV here. Once they decided on the nature of the link above, they will not want to be guilty by association.
Or have they already left? Or is the 'Shaia TV on 4' got nothing to do with them.

LegalEagle
19-04-2005, 02:00 PM
Good point George. But when you say, i find it odd 'you will vote..'.

Remember this is just a selective sample of people.

Electoral history and common sense show the overwhelming majority of people (including the majority of muslims) will vote blue, red or yellow by estimating how party policy will affect their local school and hospital.

Indeed, the idea that thousands of muslims will desert the Labour Party because of Iraq is laughable. If middle eastern affairs concerned them to such an extent, trust me when i say, they would not even be here. They are a long way away from such concerns. People moved to Britain for economic oppurtunity. Money.


What ?! i guess all those labour-jewish and conservative-jewish organisations
don't make a bit of difference when it comes to voting for pro-Zionist policies
then....all that money wasted... :)

grisley-adams...u of course knew that grizzley-adams is a gay icon
right... :)

maybe money is an end in itself for you...zionists...it isn't for the rest of the
rational world