Zionist

[yorkshireman]

Hi all!

I noticed a while back that the main site uses the word "Zionist" a fair ammount and it also crops up in the forum.

When you say "Zionist" what do you mean by it?

[sunni]

Salam
zionists are extreme jews, the cause of the oppression of Muslims worldwide!




Hi all!

I noticed a while back that the main site uses the word "Zionist" a fair ammount and it also crops up in the forum.

When you say "Zionist" what do you mean by it?

[Mr Sin]

Salam
zionists are extreme jews, the cause of the oppression of Muslims worldwide!


Nobody oppresses Muslims like other Muslims do.

Put your global envy aside and grow up.

[br ash]

Nobody oppresses Muslims like other Muslims do.

Put your global envy aside and grow up.


You are right Muslims are oppressed by Muslims, no questions about it. Jews were oppressed by Jews, one only has to read up on Rudolf Kastner, yes.

The issue is not do with Muslims, the issue is Zionism.

Even Eichman, when he was caught by Mossad, admitted his admiration for Zionism, simply because is was so good, that it was at points even better than Nazi ideology. That is a fact, is it not.:D Zionism could not have a better endorsement.

One can only conclude Hitler=Naziism=Zionism=Racistism

Please below part of reference

Eichmann on Kastner
As Arrendt observes, Eichmann had a high regard for Kastner:
The greatest "idealist" Eichmann ever encountered among the Jews was Dr. Rudolf Kastner, with whom he negotiated during the Jewish deportations from Hungary and with whom he came to an agreement that he, Eichmann, would permit the "illegal" departure of a few thousand Jews to Palestine (the trains were in fact guarded by German police) in exchange for "quiet and order' in the camps from which hundreds of thousands were shipped to Auschwitz. The few thousand saved by the agreement, prominent Jews and members of the Zionist youth organizations, were, in Eichmann's words, "the best biological material." Dr. Kastner, as Eichmann understood it, had sacrificed his fellow-Jews to his "idea," and this was as it should be. Judge Benjamin Halevi, one of the three judges at Eichmann's trial, had been in charge of the Kastner trial in Israel, at which Kastner had to defend himself for his cooperation with Eichmann and other high-ranking Nazis; in Halevi's opinion, Kastner had "sold his soul to the devil." Now that the devil himself was in the dock he turned out to be an "idealist," and though it may be hard to believe, it is quite possible that the one who sold his soul had also been an "idealist." (p42)

Also one of the reasons why Kastner was killed, was simply had been convicted a number of high ranking members of the Zionist movement would have also had to be tried.


There are so many reference of co-operation between Zionist and Hitler’s Nazi B******. I do apologies for swearing, I just hate Nazis=Zionisism. With out a question of doubt Jews have been involved in the murder and butcher of there 6 Million fellow brethren, all in the name of the superior race, that of Zionism

Rudolf Kastner was without a question was 100% a Zionist. He ranks as the best of all Zionist. Just like Dr Goldstein the buther of Muslims at the tome of Abraham, Rudolf Kastner is considered a saint in number of Zionist circle.

Salaam


Ash

[Mr Sin]

You are right Muslims are oppressed by Muslims, no questions about it. Jews were oppressed by Jews, one only has to read up on Rudolf Kastner, yes.

[One can only conclude Hitler=Naziism=Zionism=Racistism

Salaam

Ash

Then what about the Muslim SS????

Yep Arafats own Uncle was a big fan!

http://www.fantompowa.net/Flame/yugoslavia_collaboration.htm

Your technique to equate Zionism with Hitler is nothing short of comedy given that Muslim now have the monopoly of geneocides as we speak.

If you want to compare numbers, I'll gladly join in.

[br ash]

Then what about the Muslim SS????

Yep Arafats own Uncle was a big fan!

http://www.fantompowa.net/Flame/yugoslavia_collaboration.htm

Your technique to equate Zionism with Hitler is nothing short of comedy given that Muslim now have the monopoly of geneocides as we speak.

If you want to compare numbers, I'll gladly join in.


Arabs are trying to learn from there Jewish neighbours. Most of the genocide that has occurred has occurred with Christian encouragement. It was American Christian and American Jewish who supplied Sadam to Butcher of the Kurds, and his own shia community.

Muslim only have slight monopoly, because America and Jewish American want a lager stake:D. which they have.

Jewish Americans played a major part, indirectly. You should be proud of it.

Salaam


Ash

[Mr Sin]

Arabs are trying to learn from there Jewish neighbours. Salaam


Ash


Seems they've exceeded all expectations then!!

[br ash]

Seems they've exceeded all expectations then!!

Jewish and American people can at least claim that they are the best of the best:D, in whole scale slaughter.


Salaam




Ash

[Mr Sin]

Jewish and American people can at least claim that they are the best of the best:D, in whole scale slaughter.


Salaam

Ash

And yet Muslims are involved in the following conflicts-

Afghanistan
Albania
Algeria
Argentina
Britain
Chechnya
Egypt
France
Germany
India
Indonesia & East Timor
Israel
Jordan
Kenya
Kosovo
Kuwait
Lebanon
Libya
Macedonia
Nigeria
Pakistan/ Kashmir
Philippines (Mindanao)
Russia
Saudi Arabia
Spain
Sudan
Syria
Tanzania
U.S.A.
Yemen

[br ash]

And yet Muslims are involved in the following conflicts-

Afghanistan
Albania
Algeria


Explain your meaning of the word conflict and then i will answer this:D

Salaam

Ash

[Mr Sin]

Explain your meaning of the word conflict and then i will answer this:D

Salaam

Ash


Err, killing, stuff like that.

[br ash]

Err, killing, stuff like that.


You mean like Zionist butchering innocent people of Dir Yassin, Qibya in 1953

Arfart only did what he did, after the butchers of Zionism carried out there humane acts.




Salaam


Ash

[Mr Sin]

You mean like Zionist butchering innocent people of Dir Yassin, Qibya in 1953

Arfart only did what he did, after the butchers of Zionism carried out there humane acts.




Salaam


Ash

Like the so called Jenin massacre, it never happened - even though it suits your agenda.

[br ash]

Like the so called Jenin massacre, it never happened - even though it suits your agenda.


I will talk about Jenin massacre, if time permits, but please answer the previous question: I have not even mentioned Jenin, there are over 3500 masscures commited by Zionists which are 100-200 times more damaging than Jenin. We talk about the events that Zionist like Dir Yassin, and rape and murder of pregnant women.

You mean like Zionist butchering innocent people of Dir Yassin, Qibya in 1953

Arfart only did what he did, after the butchers of Zionism carried out there humane acts.

Salaam

Ash

[yorkshireman]

Salam
zionists are extreme jews, the cause of the oppression of Muslims worldwide!

Thanks for the reply sunni. :)

Does anyone else have a definition?

[Mr Sin]

Thanks for the reply sunni. :)

Does anyone else have a definition?

Zionism is the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel, advocated, from its inception, tangible as well as spiritual aims. Jews of all persuasions, left and right, religious and secular, joined to form the Zionist movement and worked together toward these goals. Disagreements led to rifts, but ultimately, the common goal of a Jewish state in its ancient homeland was attained. The term "Zionism" was coined in 1890 by Nathan Birnbaum.

[br ash]

Zionism is the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel, advocated, from its inception, tangible as well as spiritual aims. Jews of all persuasions, left and right, religious and secular, joined to form the Zionist movement and worked together toward these goals. Disagreements led to rifts, but ultimately, the common goal of a Jewish state in its ancient homeland was attained. The term "Zionism" was coined in 1890 by Nathan Birnbaum.


You forgot to add in a few additional vital points: therefore i will redefine the true meaning of Zionism:

Zionism is the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel, advocated, from its inception, tangible as well as spiritual aims and also by means of rape, murder and most importantly the ethnic cleansing.

Salaam


Ash

[br ash]

Then what about the Muslim SS????

Yep Arafats own Uncle was a big fan!

http://www.fantompowa.net/Flame/yugoslavia_collaboration.htm

Your technique to equate Zionism with Hitler is nothing short of comedy given that Muslim now have the monopoly of genocide’s as we speak.

If you want to compare numbers, I'll gladly join in.

Yet Arafart did not send knowingly 50,000 Jews to the gas chamber, when he could have easily saved them.

Now which prominent Zionist admitted publicly this fact?

I have only mentioned Rudolf, there are hundreds situation when Zionist could easily saved Jewish lives, they decided not to. They preferred the Holocaust of their fellow Jews. :mad: But then i supposed you are happy at the killing and slaugher of fellow Jews by racist Zionist. Yes?

The Irony is Zionist have killed more Jews than Muslim via indirect direct routes since the second world war.


Salaam


Ash

[shabeer]

ok you might be right about zionists killing more jews than muslims whatever i dont know... BUT now muslims are getting massacred and the question is what should we do about it. The least and this is like the bear minimum is to stop purchasing israeli goods...

I hope non of you guys drink coca cola, fanta, sprite .. theres many more ??????????????????? I HOPE NOT. each product is a bullet in a muslim kid in palestine.

[sunni]

excuse me i was just defining the word zionist!!!!!,how everyone defines it, coz wen ya mention zionists it instantly clicks as to da extreme Jews!!!
and i am a grown up muslim!, no question bout dat and i know how impotent the so called muslim leaders...are thank u very much




Nobody oppresses Muslims like other Muslims do.

Put your global envy aside and grow up.

[Mr Sin]

Your rewriting of history is unbelievable. Not once have you mentioned Hitler.

- I suppose he was a Zionist too!

[br ash]

Your rewriting of history is unbelievable. Not once have you mentioned Hitler.

- I suppose he was a Zionist too!


Arafart did not knowingly send 50,000 Jews to the gas chamber, when he could have easily saved them.

Now which prominent Zionist admitted publicly this fact?

Please answer, or has the cat bitten your tongue, is the best you can do is say. Can not face the truth. Typical Zionist.


I have only mentioned Rudolf, there are hundreds situation when Zionist could easily saved Jewish lives, they decided not to. They preferred the Holocaust of their fellow Jews. But then i supposed you are happy at the killing and slaughter of fellow Jews by racist Zionist. Yes?

The Irony is Zionist have killed more Jews than Muslim via indirect direct routes since the second world war.

The biggest enemy that Jewish people have is the enemy within, and that is Zionism, the curse that is upon the many Jewish people.


It is Zionist who create history , I HAVE ONLY DEALT WITH THE FACTS. Zionist have to rewrite history, if they did not they would have to admit the being responsible for the killing of hundreds of thousands of fellow Jews. Zionist can at least argue that Hitler killed many more Jews, so in relation Hitler were in fact angels.




Salaam


Ash

[Mr Sin]

Arafart

Ash


Couldn't agree more...

[solid_snake]

Like the so called Jenin massacre, it never happened - even though it suits your agenda.

I suppose Deir Yassin didn't happen either? Niether did Sabra And Shatila did it? :rolleyes:

[br ash]

Your rewriting of history is unbelievable. Not once have you mentioned Hitler.

- I suppose he was a Zionist too!


I only quote facts. Only some one who has to hide or can not respond would resort to the statement you have made.

I am quoting facts, which Zionist sent 50,000 fellow Jews to the gas chambers because they did serve the cause of Zionism. They could have been easily saved, yet they were sent in one full swoop to the gas chambers.

Like I have said Arabs have not killed more Jews than Zionist have. That is a fact.


Know I am sure you will agree that the individual, who sent these innocent Jewish people to the gas chambers, is a complete and utter *******. He is a son of a *****. Like Hitler. I am sure you would agree on this would you not


Salaam

Ash

[Mr Sin]

I only quote facts. Only some one who has to hide or can not respond would resort to the statement you have made.

I am quoting facts, which Zionist sent 50,000 fellow Jews to the gas chambers because they did serve the cause of Zionism. They could have been easily saved, yet they were sent in one full swoop to the gas chambers.

Like I have said Arabs have not killed more Jews than Zionist have. That is a fact.


Know I am sure you will agree that the individual, who sent these innocent Jewish people to the gas chambers, is a complete and utter *******. He is a son of a *****. Like Hitler. I am sure you would agree on this would you not


Salaam

Ash


The Holocaust never happened - its a Zionist ploy to get sympathy for the Jews.

Can't you see their trickery brother?

[br ash]

The Holocaust never happened - its a Zionist ploy to get sympathy for the Jews.

Can't you see their trickery brother?


Again to the subject matter, you behaviour is like fascist pigs who believe that the Holocaust did not happen, they use trickery like going off the subject, so as to justify there stupidity.

Start another thread lets condemn the B*****Ds who have committed acts like the Holocaust, Dir Yassin, sending 50,000 of there fellow brethren to the gas chambers, I am for that, the question is are you. We all know that racist fascist pigs would not condemn all what I have just written in this paragraph.

Salaam


Ash

[Mr Sin]

Again to the subject matter, you behaviour is like fascist pigs who believe that the Holocaust did not happen, they use trickery like going off the subject, so as to justify there stupidity.

Start another thread lets condemn the B*****Ds who have committed acts like the Holocaust, Dir Yassin, sending 50,000 of there fellow brethren to the gas chambers, I am for that, the question is are you. We all know that racist fascist pigs would not condemn all what I have just written in this paragraph.

Salaam


Ash

Good idea.

You could list the Islamic ones and I'll handle the Jewish ones

Start the thread.

[br ash]

Good idea.

You could list the Islamic ones and I'll handle the Jewish ones

Start the thread.

I deal with the Jewish ones. You deal with the Muslims.:D

Your suggestion is like saying to Hitler, had he been caught, you are going to be tried in a court of law. You can select who you like to sit on the Jury that will decide your fate.


To start with lets investigate the atrocities Of Zionists and what you can find committed by Palestinians

Salaam


Ash

[Mr Sin]

I deal with the Jewish ones. You deal with the Muslims.:D

Your suggestion is like saying to Hitler, had he been caught, you are going to be tried in a court of law. You can select who you like to sit on the Jury that will decide your fate.


To start with lets investigate the atrocities Of Zionists and what you can find committed by Palestinians

Salaam


Ash

Tel-Hai, the 1920-21 riots (Haycraft Commission summary report:"The racial strife was begun by the Arabs, and rapidly developed into a conflict of great violence between Arabs and Jews, in which the Arab majority, who were generally the aggressors, inflicted most of the casualties."), 1929 riots (133 Jewish dead, >300wounded), 1936 revolt (415 Jewish dead)

[br ash]

Tel-Hai, the 1920-21 riots (Haycraft Commission summary report:"The racial strife was begun by the Arabs, and rapidly developed into a conflict of great violence between Arabs and Jews, in which the Arab majority, who were generally the aggressors, inflicted most of the casualties."), 1929 riots (133 Jewish dead, >300wounded), 1936 revolt (415 Jewish dead)

what started it?

Salaam


ash

[Mr Sin]

what started it?

Salaam


ash

Abraham and Isaac :p .

Your turn.

[br ash]

Abraham and Isaac :p .

Your turn.

what started the 1920-21 riots?

Salaam


ash

[Mr Sin]

what started the 1920-21 riots?

Salaam


ash

This may have influenced it.

[Mr Sin]

This may have influenced it.

Would do you think?

[Musab]

Attachements from sources you do not trust could contain viruses.

Mr Sin, please try to post links or at worst pdf file. Word files are big candidates for infectious viruses.

[Mr Sin]

Attachements from sources you do not trust could contain viruses.

Mr Sin, please try to post links or at worst pdf file. Word files are big candidates for infectious viruses.

Understood. Hope no infection occurs.

[Musab]

Could you tell us what they are? Sorry, but i'm on a linux machine and can't open word documents...a quick overview...anyone?

[shaqArif]

Pictures... One of the 'Grand Mufti' meeting Heinrich Himmler and another of him inspecting Nazi troops.

[br ash]

Leadinng Zionist were given the full option to save these particular jews, by the German Gestapo, fully knowing that had they not accepted the offer, the Jews would be sent to the gas chambers. All the Grand Mufti said was that these Jewish people cannot come to the Palistaine, that was the condation of offer.

Zionist prefered the German Gestapo to gas Jews rather than save them. The articel below is from a Jewish site, i encloes the following link:http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/holocaust/gedalyaLiebermann.htm


It is an historical fact that in 1941 and again in 1942, the German Gestapo offered all European Jews transit to Spain, if they would relinquish all their property in Germany and Occupied France; on condition that: a) none of the deportees travel from Spain to Palestine; and b) all the deportees be transported from Spain to the USA or British colonies, and there to remain; with entry visas to be arranged by the Jews living there; and c) $1000.00 ransom for each family to be furnished by the Agency, payable upon the arrival of the family at the Spanish border at the rate of 1000 families daily.


The Zionist leaders in Switzerland and Turkey received this offer with the clear understanding that the exclusion of Palestine as a destination for the deportees was based on an agreement between the Gestapo and the Mufti.


The answer of the Zionist leaders was negative, with the following comments:
a) ONLY Palestine would be considered as a destination for the deportees.

b) The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations, in order that the victorious allies agree to a "Jewish State" at the end of the war.

c) No ransom will be paid This response to the Gestapo's offer was made with the full knowledge that the alternative to this offer was the gas chamber.



We can conclude that Grand Mufti spoke to the ilk of Heinrich Himmler, that one Muslim leader, yet 100s of Jewish Leaders who dealt with Hitlers Scum bags.

Zionist were billion times worse than the Grand Mufti, they were in fact SCUM BAGS, as we all know only SCUM BAGS, and RACIST PIGS WOULD ALLOW INOCENT PEOPLE TO THE GAS CHAMBERS. These Zionist set 100s of thousands of Jews to the gas chambers.

Every Anglo Saxon i know who has read this, finds it unbelievable, after research they ALL conclude that Zionist are indeed the lowest form of human life.


The only people who worship these people are Scum Bags who sent innocent and decent Jews to the gas chambers.Their on brethren. Hitler was the lowest piece of ****, the Zionist have even lowered them selves to a level worse than Hitler.


Salaam

Ash

[Mr Sin]

what started the 1920-21 riots?

Salaam


ash

During their annual spring festival Nebi Musa (Prophet Moses), Muslims march from Jerusalem on the road to Jericho to where they believe Moses is buried. In the years predating 1920, these processions were marked by intimidation of Christian communities on their way.

After Emir Faisal I had agreed to the establishment of a Jewish National Home in Palestine by signing the Faisal-Weizmann Agreement at Paris Peace Conference of 1919, the local leaders of the Palestinian Arabs, among them the Jerusalem Mayor Musa Khazim al-Husayni, rejected this agreement made in their name and the relations between Arabs and Jews had worsened.
The Arab attacks of March 1920 in Galilee (see the fall of Tel Hai and Joseph Trumpeldor) and the activities of Arab terrorist group Black Hand caused deep concerns among Zionist leaders, who made numerous requests to the Mandate administration to address the Yishuv's security. Their fears were ruled out by the Chief Administrative Officer General Louis Bols, Governor Ronald Storrs and General Edmund Allenby, particularly at their meeting with the president of the World Zionist Organization Dr. Chaim Weizmann, who warned them: "pogrom is in the air".

Storrs issued a warning to Arab leaders, but his forces included only 188 policemen, among them but 8 officers. The Ottoman Turks had usually deployed thousands of soldiers to keep order in narrow streets of Jerusalem during Nebi Musa procession.

Zeev Jabotinsky, who was earlier discharged from the British army as an "indiscreet political speaker", lead an effort to openly train Jewish volunteers in self-defense. The request to the British authorities to allow to arm the defenders was declined, however about 600 Jews were armed with small guns secretly.


April 4-7, 1920 in the Old City

During a procession on April 4, 1920, inflammatory anti-Semitic rhetoric led to rioting in Jerusalem. One of the inciters was Hajj Amin al-Husayni, a young nephew of the mayor of Jerusalem, another was the editor of the newspaper Suriya al-Janubia ("Southern Syria") Aref al-Aref, who delivered his speech on horseback. The Arab mob went on to ransack the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem, beating anyone they could find and looting shops and homes. The riots lasted for four days.

The British acted erratically. After the violence broke out, Jabotisky met Storrs and suggested deployment of his volunteers, but this request was rejected. Later Storrs changed his mind and asked for 200 volunteers to report to the police headquarters to be sworn in as deputies. After they arrived and the administering of the oath had begun, orders came to cease and send them away. The army imposed night curfew on Sunday night and arrested several dozen rioters, but on Monday morning they were allowed to attend morning prayer and then released.

On Monday disturbances grew worse and the Old City was sealed off by the army. Even the Jews who sought to flee were not allowed to leave. Martial law was declared, but looting, burglary, rape and murder continued. Several homes were set on fire.

On Monday evening, the soldiers were evacuated from the Old City, a step that was later declared an "an error of judgment" by a court inquiry.

Jewish volunteers entered the Old City to organize self-defense of its residents. One of the volunteers was Nehemia Rabin (Rubitzov), future father of Yitzhak Rabin. Eventually, the violence was quelled by the British.


The aftermath
Fatalities: 5 Jews, 4 Arabs. Wounded: 216 Jews (18 critically), 23 Arabs (1 critically), 7 British soldiers.

The majority of the victims were old-Yishuv (non-Zionist, and some anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews). About 300 Jews from the Old City were evacuated.

After the riots, Storrs visited Menachem Ussishkin, the chairman of the Zionist Commission, to express "regrets for the tragedy that has befallen us," Ussishkin asked, "What tragedy?"

"I mean the unfortunate events that have occurred here in the recent days," Storrs said.

"His excellency means the pogrom," suggested Ussishkin. When Storrs hesitated to categorize the events as such, Ussishkin replied, "You Colonel, are an expert on matters of management and I am an expert on the rules of pogroms."

At the demand of the Palestinian Arab leadership, the British searched the offices and apartments of the Zionist leadership, including Weizmann's and Jabotisky's homes, for arms. At Jabotinsky's house they found 3 rifles, 2 pistols, and 250 rounds of ammunition. Nineteen men were arrested, including Jabotinsky.

A committee of inquiry placed responsibility for the riots on the Zionist Commission, for provoking the Arabs. Jabotinsky was given a fifteen year prison term for possessing weapons. The court blamed "Bolshevism," claiming that it "flowed in Zionism's inner heart" and ironically identified fiercely anti-Socialist Jabotinsky with the Socialist-aligned Poalei Zion ("Zionist Workers") party, which it called "a definite Bolshevist institution".

Some of the rioters were punished. Musa al-Hussayni was replaced as mayor by the head of the rival Nashashibi clan. Hajj Amin Al-Husayni and Aref al-Aref were each sentenced to ten years in absentia, since by then both had fled to Syria.

The official inquiry that followed found that the British military administration was rife with anti-Semitism and that the measures taken to maintain order were inadequate, but no one was charged. Not a single policeman was charged for failing in his duties.

A few weeks later, the San Remo conference replaced military administration of the Mandate with a civil government under Sir Herbert Samuel.

One of the most important results of the riot was that legal Jewish immigration to Palestine was halted, a major demand of the Palestinian Arab community. Feeling that the British were unwilling to defend them from continuous Arab violence, the Palestinian Jews decided to set up an underground self-defense militia, the Haganah ("defense").

[TheBatman]

Dear Mr Brainwashed Runt

Thanks for the lengthy cut and paste job (yawn)..but its easier to work out who started the riots then reading an essay from 'The Zionist Chronicle'.

Duh !- The thousands of Jews who immigrated from Europe were trying to take over Palestine! - if they bloody weren’t there trying to steal the land, and kill or exile all its inhabitants, are you really trying to tell people would have rioted? - err over what ...too much land to farm, too much peace and love going around ???? -get a grip!:rolleyes:

Muslims lived with local Jews for hundreds of years, in peace! Before the cancer of Zionism infected your community. You figure it out you brain numbing apologist for child killers!

Quick question have you eve served in the IDF ? Have you ever pointed a gun at a Muslim child, have you ever demolished a house of a Muslim..do you want to, do you secretly fantasise about doing it?

You know there's only one thing for jerks like you a swift .... :firing:

I may not currently be a member of mpac (although I am a hardcore armchair supporter!), but after reading this guys garbage i might just join to get back at him!

[br ash]

Dear Mr Brainwashed Runt

Thanks for the lengthy cut and paste job (yawn)..but its easier to work out who started the riots then reading an essay from 'The Zionist Chronicle'.

Duh !- The thousands of Jews who immigrated from Europe were trying to take over Palestine! - if they bloody weren’t there trying to steal the land, and kill or exile all its inhabitants, are you really trying to tell people would have rioted? - err over what ...too much land to farm, too much peace and love going around ???? -get a grip!:rolleyes:

Muslim lived with local Jews for hundreds of years, in peace! You figure it out you brain numbing apologist for child killers!

Quick question have you eve served in the IDF ? Have you ever pointed a gun at a Muslim child, have you ever demolished a house of a Muslim..do you want to, do you secretly fantasise about doing it?

You know there's only one thing for jerks like you :firing:
I totally agree with you Bat

Zionist behave as Sin does, simply on the grounds that if they have to admit the truth, that before even the Balfour declaration Zionists were putting into action to remove and take land by any means from the native inhabitants the Arab Christian and Muslim population. Ironically majority of the Arab Jewish population back in the 1920s did not want the racist Zionist in Palestine either

Put it this way in one event where Zionist leaders could have saved 50,000 Jews from the gas chambers, only on the conditions that those Jews were not sent to Palestine.

Zionist response was send them to the gas chambers.

Zionist has no concern for any life other that will meet there goals..

Sin constantly avoids the questions, he poses a question that we have answer, yet when he is posed a question he shuts up, or comes up with silly and stupid statement you are probably going to say Hitler was Zionist, or to that effect.

My personal opinion he is a waste of space, reminds me of some one:D.

Salaam

Ash

[Mr Sin]

Dear Mr Brainwashed Runt

Thanks for the lengthy cut and paste job (yawn)..but its easier to work out who started the riots then reading an essay from 'The Zionist Chronicle'.

Duh !- The thousands of Jews who immigrated from Europe were trying to take over Palestine! - if they bloody weren’t there trying to steal the land, and kill or exile all its inhabitants, are you really trying to tell people would have rioted? - err over what ...too much land to farm, too much peace and love going around ???? -get a grip!:rolleyes:

Muslims lived with local Jews for hundreds of years, in peace! Before the cancer of Zionism infected your community. You figure it out you brain numbing apologist for child killers!

Quick question have you eve served in the IDF ? Have you ever pointed a gun at a Muslim child, have you ever demolished a house of a Muslim..do you want to, do you secretly fantasise about doing it?

You know there's only one thing for jerks like you a swift .... :firing:

I may not currently be a member of mpac (although I am a hardcore armchair supporter!), but after reading this guys garbage i might just join to get back at him!

Great rant.
It's non-accuracy was only superceeded by sheer rudeness.
Your a credit to your armchair.

[TheBatman]

why thank you, its always a pleasure humiliating you ! Please drop by again. :chairshot

[Mr Sin]

why thank you, its always a pleasure humiliating you ! Please drop by again. :chairshot

Exactly what part of 'great rant' don't you understand?

[TheBatman]

Exactly what part of 'great rant' don't you understand?

the great rant part ??? - I thought that was obvious :dunce:

Exactly what part of stop trying to influence western Governments to attack us dont you understand? :cool:

[Mr Sin]

the great rant part ??? - I thought that was obvious :dunce:

Exactly what part of stop trying to influence western Governments to attack us dont you understand? :cool:

Blaming Osama Bin Laden might not be a bad start for your rehabilitation.

[br ash]

Blaming Osama Bin Laden might not be a bad start for your rehabilitation.

Just like George Bush, leting his mates in Bin Laden family out of the USA. Yeah.


Saying that there is no difference between the acts of 9-11 and buthchers of Dir Yassin.




Salaam


Ash

[Maevi]

Hi all!

I noticed a while back that the main site uses the word "Zionist" a fair ammount and it also crops up in the forum.

When you say "Zionist" what do you mean by it?


Hi,

After being in different forums, I notice that people seem to think, that anyone living in Israel is a Zionist, it's like, you are labelled because you happen to live in Israel, I have noticed that it isn't just down to the settlers in WB and Gaza, but the Zionist label is put upon all those living in Israel, whether Jew or Christian.

[Maevi]

Salam
zionists are extreme jews, the cause of the oppression of Muslims worldwide!

How can the tiny little State of Israel "the Zionists" within Israel be the cause of Muslim oppression Worldwide? when you take a look at the World, ask yourself how many Muslims in the World there are compared to Jews, and also, how many Jewish States there are to Muslim States. It's not about Jews oppressing Muslims, Jews and Muslims can live together, I see Jews and Muslims live together quite peacefully in Israel, in fact, at the end of Ramadan I saw hundreds of Muslims enjoying a holiday in Eilat (Southern Israel), having a wonderful time alongside the Israelis and other holidaymakers. In Yafo and Tel Aviv I see Jews and Muslims together, you see, not everybody wishes to oppress the Muslims, because in many cases, its Muslim oppressing Muslim, and not your statement of Jews trying to oppress Muslims Worldwide.

[TheBatman]

Blaming Osama Bin Laden might not be a bad start for your rehabilitation.

Trying everything to divert your culpability again ....hmmmm anything to get away from owning up to your own insidious influence in western capitals? :cool:

[TheBatman]

How can the tiny little State of Israel "the Zionists" within Israel be the cause of Muslim oppression Worldwide? when you take a look at the World, ask yourself how many Muslims in the World there are compared to Jews, and also, how many Jewish States there are to Muslim States. It's not about Jews oppressing Muslims, Jews and Muslims can live together, I see Jews and Muslims live together quite peacefully in Israel, in fact, at the end of Ramadan I saw hundreds of Muslims enjoying a holiday in Eilat (Southern Israel), having a wonderful time alongside the Israelis and other holidaymakers. In Yafo and Tel Aviv I see Jews and Muslims together, you see, not everybody wishes to oppress the Muslims, because in many cases, its Muslim oppressing Muslim, and not your statement of Jews trying to oppress Muslims Worldwide.

Is lying taught to you so called Israeli's at birth? You seem to do it effortlessly, without any remorse or shame?
:nono:

[br ash]

Hi,

After being in different forums, I notice that people seem to think, that anyone living in Israel is a Zionist, it's like, you are labelled because you happen to live in Israel, I have noticed that it isn't just down to the settlers in WB and Gaza, but the Zionist label is put upon all those living in Israel, whether Jew or Christian.

No one in this forum has labelled any thing as such, if you go through all the missives in this forum you will notice, there are Jews who happen to be Israelis have been classified none Zionist. I for one have.

I have also reference and quoted non-Zionist Jewish sources on this forum.

Christian have been murdered and killed by Zionist, again I have and many in this forum also realise this. It would be very hard to imagine Christian Arabs as Zionist.

I agree with you some people do label ALL Israelis Jewish citizens as Zionist as we also get Israelis Zionist labelling All Muslims as terrorist.

Hope you participate and enjoy getting out as much as possible from this forum.


Salaam


Ash

[br ash]

How can the tiny little State of Israel "the Zionists" within Israel be the cause of Muslim oppression Worldwide? when you take a look at the World, ask yourself how many Muslims in the World there are compared to Jews, and also, how many Jewish States there are to Muslim States. It's not about Jews oppressing Muslims, Jews and Muslims can live together, I see Jews and Muslims live together quite peacefully in Israel, in fact, at the end of Ramadan I saw hundreds of Muslims enjoying a holiday in Eilat (Southern Israel), having a wonderful time alongside the Israelis and other holidaymakers. In Yafo and Tel Aviv I see Jews and Muslims together, you see, not everybody wishes to oppress the Muslims, because in many cases, its Muslim oppressing Muslim, and not your statement of Jews trying to oppress Muslims Worldwide.

So can you explain as to why Zionist in the second world war, when they could have saved 50,000 Jews, preferred to send them to the gas chambers.

Israel has support of the ultimate supper power, the USA.


America vetoes on behalf of the state of Israel. America allows Zionist murders to get away with murder.

You get rid of these Zionist murders, nobody going to bother with you.

You make out that Israeli Arabs get on well with Jewish people. I have met a number of Israelis Arabs, they do nothing but curse the Zionist state of Israel.

Israeli Arabs are treated as 5th class citizens.

When i was at Uni., we were having a discussion about the Israel. In the group there was a British European Jew, British Iraqi Jew, couple of Christian and Muslims.

When the topic came to Israeli Arabs were treated as Second class Citizens, the British Iraqi Jew, stated the following:

The class structure of Israel:

1st Class Citizen European Jews
2nd Citizen, Recent Russian Immigrants
3rd Class Citizens, Arab Jews
4th Citizen Israeli Druze/ he also classed Israeli Arabs in this category, do not why, but that is what he said.

Palestine are considered as Dogs, and they are treated as such, there was no classification, as they were not considered human being by Zionists.

He also stated which is a fact , a large amount of immigration form Israel to America of Russian Jews, and Arab Jews, because of this being of being treated as 2nd and 3rd class citizens.


Salaam

ash

[Mr Sin]

So can you explain as to why Zionist in the second world war, when they could have saved 50,000 Jews, preferred to send them to the gas chambers.

Israel has support of the ultimate supper power, the USA.


America vetoes on behalf of the state of Israel. America allows Zionist murders to get away with murder.

You get rid of these Zionist murders, nobody going to bother with you.

You make out that Israeli Arabs get on well with Jewish people. I have met a number of Israelis Arabs, they do nothing but curse the Zionist state of Israel.

Israeli Arabs are treated as 5th class citizens.

When i was at Uni., we were having a discussion about the Israel. In the group there was a British European Jew, British Iraqi Jew, couple of Christian and Muslims.

When the topic came to Israeli Arabs were treated as Second class Citizens, the British Iraqi Jew, stated the following:

The class structure of Israel:

1st Class Citizen European Jews
2nd Citizen, Recent Russian Immigrants
3rd Class Citizens, Arab Jews
4th Citizen Israeli Druze/ he also classed Israeli Arabs in this category, do not why, but that is what he said.

Palestine are considered as Dogs, and they are treated as such, there was no classification, as they were not considered human being by Zionists.

He also stated which is a fact , a large amount of immigration form Israel to America of Russian Jews, and Arab Jews, because of this being of being treated as 2nd and 3rd class citizens.


Salaam

ash


Ever wondered why the Israeli Arabs don't flee to the fascist Muslim States?
It's a democracy you know, and going by your skewed logic surely Israel would 'love' to see them leave as much as they would.

But no. They choose to stay put.

Either they're stupid or your highly misinformed as usual.

On this one, even you can't have it both ways.

[UmmZakariya]

They choose to stay put

Of course they wil stay put its their land...only you'd love to 'trasfer' them wouldnt you? How do you feel about all the polticians in democratic Israel that advocate trasfer/ethnic cleansing? And how do you feel about the demographic time bomb, Sin? 1 in 4 children born in Israel last year were Muslim....its just a matter of time.

[Maevi]

Is lying taught to you so called Israeli's at birth? You seem to do it effortlessly, without any remorse or shame?
:nono:


Please explain what you mean by lying? Because it is not in my nature to lie. Maybe you should take a look yourself, at the situation in Israel before telling me that I am a liar.
What is your problem, do you not like the truth eh?

Oh, and what would you know about remorse and shame?

[Maevi]

No one in this forum has labelled any thing as such, if you go through all the missives in this forum you will notice, there are Jews who happen to be Israelis have been classified none Zionist. I for one have.

I have also reference and quoted non-Zionist Jewish sources on this forum.

Christian have been murdered and killed by Zionist, again I have and many in this forum also realise this. It would be very hard to imagine Christian Arabs as Zionist.

I agree with you some people do label ALL Israelis Jewish citizens as Zionist as we also get Israelis Zionist labelling All Muslims as terrorist.

Hope you participate and enjoy getting out as much as possible from this forum.


Salaam


Ash

Hey, I hope that you have not misread my post here, but I was not outrightly accusing anyone in here of labelling all Israelis as Zionists, it's just that I believe there are those who really need to get their facts right before accusing a whole Nation of people of being land grabbing Zionists, when I know for a fact, that most Israelis are not like that. Like I said, the different forums I have encountered, people tend to be ingnorant when it comes down to Israelis and Zionists.

I look forward to some deep meaningful debates on the Israeli/Palestinian issues,

shalom/salaam.

[br ash]

Ever wondered why the Israeli Arabs don't flee to the fascist Muslim States?
It's a democracy you know, and going by your skewed logic surely Israel would 'love' to see them leave as much as they would.

But no. They choose to stay put.

Either they're stupid or your highly misinformed as usual.

On this one, even you can't have it both ways.

yes, how many immigrated to America:D, Many. Yes. Check it up.

Yes, if they leave, Jewish Settlers take over, the only way they can have some control is by remaining there. Many of them have to go abroad to get there education, when they come to British University and American universities, we then to learn the true nature of Zionist Barbaric behaviour.

Some time you are totally illogical, in your arguments. Do some research and then justify your statements. I am sure the odd time you might get something right:D

Salaam


Ash

[br ash]

Hey, I hope that you have not misread my post here, but I was not outrightly accusing anyone in here of labelling all Israelis as Zionists, it's just that I believe there are those who really need to get their facts right before accusing a whole Nation of people of being land grabbing Zionists, when I know for a fact, that most Israelis are not like that. Like I said, the different forums I have encountered, people tend to be ingnorant when it comes down to Israelis and Zionists.

I look forward to some deep meaningful debates on the Israeli/Palestinian issues,

shalom/salaam.

i look forward to, if you want to start a separate thread. Where we two can discuss what ever difference.

Salaam/Shalom


Ash

[Maevi]

So can you explain as to why Zionist in the second world war, when they could have saved 50,000 Jews, preferred to send them to the gas chambers.

Israel has support of the ultimate supper power, the USA.


America vetoes on behalf of the state of Israel. America allows Zionist murders to get away with murder.

You get rid of these Zionist murders, nobody going to bother with you.

You make out that Israeli Arabs get on well with Jewish people. I have met a number of Israelis Arabs, they do nothing but curse the Zionist state of Israel.

Israeli Arabs are treated as 5th class citizens.

When i was at Uni., we were having a discussion about the Israel. In the group there was a British European Jew, British Iraqi Jew, couple of Christian and Muslims.

When the topic came to Israeli Arabs were treated as Second class Citizens, the British Iraqi Jew, stated the following:

The class structure of Israel:

1st Class Citizen European Jews
2nd Citizen, Recent Russian Immigrants
3rd Class Citizens, Arab Jews
4th Citizen Israeli Druze/ he also classed Israeli Arabs in this category, do not why, but that is what he said.

Palestine are considered as Dogs, and they are treated as such, there was no classification, as they were not considered human being by Zionists.

He also stated which is a fact , a large amount of immigration form Israel to America of Russian Jews, and Arab Jews, because of this being of being treated as 2nd and 3rd class citizens.


Salaam

ash

I think you will find that the Palestinians have much support Worldwide, in fact, you couldn't get much more support then having the UN's full support, in fact, the UN tend to have their ambulances being used in the West Bank to transport Hamas terrorists and their weapons and bombs to Israeli checkpoints to blow up Israelis. And if you want some more support for terrorism by the United Nations, how about Kofi Annan and his much "glorified" photograph with the terrorist Hizbullah leader. No wonder the UN wants Israel to bash down the security fence, to let more suicide bombers into Israel to slaughter innocent civilians going about their daily lives.

As for your going on about WW2, well, sorry, but this is irrelevent to the current day issues, you going on about the Holocaust, what is it with people, they drag up the Holocaust and then the next thing the discussions turn to Nazism and then you get stupid remarks as such like, the Israelis are Nazis and so on.

As regards to your statements regarding how Arabs are treated in Israel, well, let's say, their lives are far better than the lives of those Arabs living in the Palestinian territories, do you know what? a Palestinian living in Gaza or WB would be shot dead if he is seen "collaborating" with an Israeli, I got talking to a Palestinian child, he must have been around 12 years old, and you could see the fear in his eyes for even being seen with me and my husband, and you want to know what his fear was? nothing to do with Israelis harming him, but more to do with his family or other Palestinians doing harm to him, for "talking to the enemy". Pretty sad situation isn't it? He feared for his life from his own people.

Your list of Israeli citizens, there wasn't even a mention of Sephardic Jews, by your first name on the list, I presume you mean Ashkenazi Jews (European), but then if you are also meaning Spain/Portugal and North Africa in your mention of European Jews, then this will include the Sephardim (my family).

I have not seen people treated so appallingly as you would have it, or your friend would have it, there was no seperate lines, or seperate buildings or seperate restaurants/cafes or shops which Arabs had to use "away from Israelis", no seperate banks or anything, no seperate hotels or swimming areas, why do you make things so extreme? I witness with my own eyes the atmosphere, the peace and the unification between both Arabs and Israelis in different locations within Israel.

The WB and Gaza, yes, along with parts of Jerusalem are tense, more so in the terrorities, because of the ongoing fighting and killing, and things are going to be terrible, the hatred and the fighting, but I am talking about within Israel, because people seem to think that the Israelis spend their time brutalising and torturing Arabs, and this is a load of bullc**p! because this is not true, I've seen more than enough to know that people can live in peace.

I think your friend has a very negative outlook, and I believe that he is only stating a very small minority here, when he talks of "Palestine considered as dogs" by Zionists, because I know that a lot of Israelis do not think like that, you know, it's statements like this which are quite devastating because it's statements like this, from your friend which brings more hatred and anger at the Israelis, this is why people tend to forget that there are Israelis and there are Zionists, and sadly, like I mentioned before, people find it difficult to seperate the two.

[Maevi]

i look forward to, if you want to start a separate thread. Where we two can discuss what ever difference.

Salaam/Shalom


Ash

I will get back to you, got to go to work, but thanks,
Maevi.

Sounds interesting :)

[br ash]

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The Irony is it well known that ambulances will be stopped, and every thing is stopped at checkpoints therefore. Therefore it is illogical to transport bombs etc. It is well worn out excuse and reason given by the Israelis. So why create porkies, about it.

Put it this way your argument makes the IDF (Israeli soldiers look stupid), one can imagine Israel soldiers surrounding an ambulance, even going inside it to check if it has bombs, and the suicide bomber not blowing himself up, . International News has shown ambulances at check points surrounded by Israel soldiers, with so much fear on their faces that they are so close by to the ambulances. :D:D, knowing full well that suicide bomber is definitely inside them, they may also have hidden explosive inside them.

Come up with a better explanation. I am sure you can do that. Even better excuse, not pathetic excuses. Come on, I am sure you can do that.

you said
And if you want some more support for terrorism by the United Nations, how about Kofi Annan and his much "glorified" photograph with the terrorist Hizbullah leader. No wonder the UN wants Israel to bash down the security fence, to let more suicide bombers into Israel to slaughter innocent civilians going about their daily lives.


Koffi Annan, if need be would take a photograph with Sharon. He is a diplomat of the UN who has to appear bipartisan. There have been UN who have shaken the hands of Israeli who were involved in the killing of UN representative to Israel. One Swedish individual. Who also happened to save the live 1000s of Jews from Hitler. Lets not forget about that. Yes.

Israel has no rights under the UN regulation to put a wall on Palestinian land. Had it done so on its own land soil, UN could not would have objective. The only reason was the wall was on Palestinian land.

Seriously tell me do you fall for the crap that Zionist leaders come up with. I am sure you can come up with better explanation than that. :D

you said
As for your going on about WW2, well, sorry, but this is irrelevent to the current day issues, you going on about the Holocaust, what is it with people, they drag up the Holocaust and then the next thing the discussions turn to Nazism and then you get stupid remarks as such like, the Israelis are Nazis and so on.

When people equate Israelis with Nazi, its more to do with similarity of behaviour of Zionist and Nazis ideology. Ironically Hitler’s cronies found Zionist ideology very appealing, that is from Hitters cronies own mouths.


If one looks at the barbaric acts that has been committed by Zionist, high percentage are of similar nature to that what Hitler and his cronies committed.

The issue regarding the Holocaust is vital today. There is great misconception amongst the general public that Jews did there best to save the lives of Jews. Which is not the case. I brought up the issue regarding where 50,000 innocent Jewish life could have been saved. As this could not meet the Zionist Agenda, they were allowed to be sent to the gas chambers.

In today’s society when children are expected to remember Holocaust day. Which I support. To me Holocaust day is not just Jews it should be made to remember for the suffering of Not only Jews, but Russian, Gypsy, Bosnioan, even Kurds (Sin) etc Jewish people are not the only people to suffer many people suffered.

Full fact regarding the horror of Zionist sending there own brethren to the gas chambers should be investigated. It would be nice to hear of you opinion regarding this matter, considering SIN avoids the subject, and defends his arguments using terms like “next you would be saying Hitler was Zionist” What is your say on innocent Jews been sent to the gas chambers when they could have saved, by Zionists?

you said
Your list of Israeli citizens, there wasn't even a mention of Sephardic Jews, by your first name on the list, I presume you mean Ashkenazi Jews (European), but then if you are also meaning Spain/Portugal and North Africa in your mention of European Jews, then this will include the Sephardim (my family).

I have not seen people treated so appallingly as you would have it, or your friend would have it, there was no seperate lines, or seperate buildings or seperate restaurants/cafes or shops which Arabs had to use "away from Israelis", no seperate banks or anything, no seperate hotels or swimming areas, why do you make things so extreme? I witness with my own eyes the atmosphere, the peace and the unification between both Arabs and Israelis in different locations within Israel.



Racism exist in all societies in Europe, America, Middle East (Israel and Arab world) Asia etc

Just because all Jews and Arabs are allowed in the same street does not mean that all Jews are treated equally amongst them selves. They are not. One of the reasons as to why there has been a large emigration from Israel of Russian Jew and Jews of Arab Origin, is for the sole reason.

For the Iraqi Jew to say what he has said, is what he has experienced. Nothing more nothing less.

You are right, European Jews are mainly classified as Ashkenazi Jews.



you said
I think your friend has a very negative outlook, and I believe that he is only stating a very small minority here, when he talks of "Palestine considered as dogs" by Zionists, because I know that a lot of Israelis do not think like that, you know, it's statements like this which are quite devastating because it's statements like this, from your friend which brings more hatred and anger at the Israelis, this is why people tend to forget that there are Israelis and there are Zionists, and sadly, like I mentioned before, people find it difficult to seperate the two.

You have just made a contradictory comment. Look at the right of Palestinians on water access and water rights. It is criminal, you know that and in know that. The Majority of the Israelis also do not want the Arabs to have equal access to water. One Israeli Zionist, said that’s how dogs are treated, with crumbs. Therefore we give them the odd crumb of water. That just happens to be Israeli policy.

Salaam/Shalom

Ash

[UmmZakariya]

in fact, you couldn't get much more support then having the UN's full support, in fact, the UN tend to have their ambulances being used in the West Bank to transport Hamas terrorists and their weapons and bombs to Israeli checkpoints to blow up Israelis.

This is a total lie Mark Elf of the Anti-Zionist blog http://jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.com/ offered a £10 reward to anyone who could provide proof of this no one could there are serveral cases of Israeli soldiers using Israeli ambulances to hold troops/ammo and launch attackes though...gees zionists they just bang on abotu the same myths...

[Mr Sin]

This is a total lie Mark Elf of the Anti-Zionist blog http://jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.com/ offered a £10 reward to anyone who could provide proof of this no one could there are serveral cases of Israeli soldiers using Israeli ambulances to hold troops/ammo and launch attackes though...gees zionists they just bang on abotu the same myths...

What....like this one. :tapedshut

http://inhonor.net/videos/uped/fl_video.php?f_num=69500

[br ash]

What....like this one. :tapedshut

http://inhonor.net/videos/uped/fl_video.php?f_num=69500

Sin we are talking about check points, people are dying and Israelis refuse. The irony is many people died at checkpoint before so called ambulances may have been used in the streets. What is Israel does in the streets is billion times worse. It is well recorded.

This does justify the of not allowing Ambulances to transport die and sick people. Recently i believe British politician was not allowed to be transported from Palestinian sector, he was kept on hold at a check point because Israeli soldiers insisted that he travel in an Israeli Ambulances and get seen in an Israeli hospital, believing the PR would do them good. Only to back fire as the individual complained at the highest level.

There has been no evidence produced that bombs have been transferred at checkpoint, as all vehicles are searched. On many occasions when Ambulances that have been allowed through, is when it would have been to late to save the life. This is known as killing innocent Palestinians democratically. There are not hundreds, but thousands of such cases. Many have accepted in that its issues like these that create suicide bombers. One can only conclude that Israel is responsible for suicide bombing that occurs, as they are indeed the catalyst for Suicide bombers. I only have to refer you to Dr Goldstein.


It well known that Israel carries out the most inhumane actives under the umbrella of a Democracy. Many now call Israel form of democracy a pseudo democracy.


Salaam


ash

[UmmZakariya]

i cant view that here, is it the one where Israel insisted a stretcher was a qassam rocket? no that was embarrassing so much for the famous Israeli intelligence...

[Maevi]

Br ash,

Your post is too long to quote, and also mixed with my post, so here is my reply.

Regarding the UN, you know, photographic evidence does not lie, and there are enough pictures and even a video recording of such incidents, so, sorry to disappoint you. Like I said, I don't lie, so I suggest you stop accusing me of doing so, otherwise debating with you is useless, because if you think I make things up, then why should I even bother to believe anything you write. Works both ways doesn't it? Some people just cannot handle the truth! Are you one of these people?

Israel has every right to put up the security fence, I am 100% behind this fence, and when the Palestinians decide that they can live without blowing up innocent Israeli civilians, perhaps one day this fence might come down.

Oh, and back to the Nazis, well, how about Palestinian Nazism eh? does that surprise you? how about Palestinians and the Swasitka, another photograph doing the rounds which I came across, oh, and Hitler got plenty of support from the Palestinians aswell, no wonder there is such a great relationship between Nazis who go onto these type of forums and Palestinians.

So, you say the Zionists commit acts like Hitler do you? so I suppose you will accuse the Zionists of rounding up every Palestinian and gassing them. Well, I suggest you take a deep look at some of the barbarity caused by militant Islam, before you start on the Jews, how about this for starters, Palestinians not just content with murdering Israelis but also tearing out parts of their bodies, like evil savages and displaying them. Oh, and parading body parts around the streets dancing and singing. Only inhumane savages could do that to someone. Oh, and if you want some more, how about Iraq and the sick beheadings which are filmed, and stringing up burned and charred bodies from overhead bridges, left to rot! But then in your eyes, this is probably what you would call justice.

Holocaust Day, pretty sad how the ignorant still walk around in denial. Two weeks ago I was walking around Yad Vashem in Jerusalem, quite horrific! and then you get your usual morons who deny the Holocaust, and you think, these people should be walking around Yad Vashem and seeing all the horrors for themselves instead denying that it happened.

Why do you insist on going on about "Zionists" sending their own to the gas chambers, is this some form of "point scoring" issue with you? I have had this thrown at me before. You know, there are those who think that Jews didn't even fight in WW2, yet over 26,000 Jews from "Palestine" faught in the British army. And then we come to the "Exodus", oh yeah, the Exodus, transporting 4,515 Jews (Holocaust survivors) including 655 children was stopped at Haifa by the British and everyone was forced back onto deportation ships and sent straight back to Germany where they were put straight into camps. (1947)

You go on about the Israelis and the water supply to the Palestinians, well, take a look at the Plight of the Palestinians from their own back yard and see the corruption and the murders commited by Hamas, Al Aqsa etc. how billions of dollars in World funds to the Palestinian people is stolen and placed into the PA's (Arafats) personal bank accounts, while the Palestinians live in poverty, shop keepers and bus drivers threatened and beaten up if they don't pay the militant thugs protection money, out of the little earnings they get, their businesses destroyed, to put them out of business. News reporters beaten up and threatened with death, for daring to report the truth. A 15 year old Palestinian child shot and killed by Al Aqsa terrorists because his family finally stood up to these sadistic killers by trying to stop them from using their Olive groves to launch their Qassam rockets from, because this family did not want the Israelis uprooting their olive groves to get to these launch pads.

You know, it amazes me that people are so quick to blame everything on the Israelis, but when it comes to corruption and acts of inhumanity from within Gaza and WB, committed by Palestinians, upon their own people, this is just swept under the carpet, or fobbed off as "Zionist propaganda." You see, some people just don't like the truth, do they?

[Maevi]

This is a total lie Mark Elf of the Anti-Zionist blog http://jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.com/ offered a £10 reward to anyone who could provide proof of this no one could there are serveral cases of Israeli soldiers using Israeli ambulances to hold troops/ammo and launch attackes though...gees zionists they just bang on abotu the same myths...


Well, here's some evidence for you, perhaps when you have opened the link, you might want to also click onto the video link and see the video while your reading the report. Oh, and I have not used a "Zionist" website, just in case you think it's a load of propaganda, but then, you'd probably find some form of excuse to try and make out that it's all a big fabrication.

undefined http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/UNRWAs_Hamas_Employees.asp

[br ash]

Israel has every right to put up the security fence, I am 100% behind this fence....

Like I have said I have no problems with Israel having a fence, as long as it is on Israeli land, and not Palestinian land, recognised by the UN.

Imagine that we were both next door neighbours, I decided to build a fence over you land. You would have me in court, Yes. What Israel has done is no different. FACT.

I am all for a Fence, to keep out the Illegal fascist Zionists out of the West Bank:D


Oh, and back to the Nazis, well, how about Palestinian Nazism eh? does that surprise you? how about Palestinians and the Swastika....

Put it this way there are hundreds of web sites in Israel with Swastika, and Neo Nazis slogans. These site have not been set up by Arabs, but by so called immigrants from the Soviet Union. :D your fellow Israelis.

Insensitive morons exists in all societies, instead of worrying about Arabs sort out your own back yard out first.:D


Holocaust Day, pretty sad how the ignorant still walk around in denial........

Holocaust day should take on an international flavour, simply because it not just the Jewish people have suffered. By doing that it will involve so many races and nations. Instead meaning. To imply only one race to have suffered, for that in it self is discrimination by ignoring the suffering of tens of millions of other races and ethnic mixes, who have also suffered.


So, you say the Zionists commit acts like Hitler do you? so I suppose you will accuse the Zionists of rounding up every Palestinian and gassing them.

No, Jewish people in Israel prefered to rape women and murdered and butchered children. One example is Dir Yassin. There are many other examples, just go through the various other threads.


So, you say the Zionists commit acts like Hitler do you? .

Zionist in the second world war, in one instance had the opportunity to save over 50,000 fellow brethren’s, i.e Jews. As it did not meet the Zionist Agenda, knowing fully well that they would be sent to the gas chambers, the Zionist preferred in sending 50,000 Jews to the gas chambers.

But you are right Israelis Jews have not sent Arabs to the gas chambers, but Zionist Jews have experience in purposely allowing there own brethren to the gas chambers, when they could have saved them.


Why do you insist on going on about "Zionists" sending their own to the gas chambers, is this some form of "point scoring" issue with you? I have had this thrown at me before. You know, there are those who think that Jews didn't even fight in WW2, yet over 26,000 Jews from "Palestine" faught in the British army. And then we come to the "Exodus", oh yeah, the Exodus, transporting 4,515 Jews (Holocaust survivors) including 655 children was stopped at Haifa by the British and everyone was forced back onto deportation ships and sent straight back to Germany where they were put straight into camps. (1947)

There Zionist who fought with the Allies we are indebted to those individuals. By the way more Muslims died than Jews fighting Hitler, From the British Army in India. ON YOUR BIKE.

There are Zionist who considered Britain to be a worse than Hitler and they are scumbags . Ie the leader of Stern Gang, he even offered to fight with the Germany. What do you have to say about that.

If Memory is correct it was he or his group that invited Eichman to Palestine.

There is one thing about me I loathe is Racist no matter who are, may. The irony is neither you or Sin have condemned any Zionist that sent over 50,000 fellow brethrens I.e. Jews to the gas chambers. You are sad individuals.



You go on about the Israelis and the water supply to the Palestinians, well, take a look at the Plight of the Palestinians from their own back yard and see the corruption and the murders commited by Hamas, Al Aqsa etc. ............................

The issue regarding corruption is different matter and a different topic. Like wise corruption in Israel is different matter. Start a different thread. I have no problem

The issue of water, and the denial of water, which is under the Palestinian land is nothing other than an act committed by racists. Which is more akin to Apartheid ideology, which is racism. That is a fact.

Imagine that we are farmers. You have water under your land, and i did not, where I had full access and rights to that water and you were not. Whist I am allowed to have 100 gallons per day you are only allowed say 1 cup per day. Is that fair. :mad:


You know, it amazes me that people are so quick to blame everything on the Israelis, but when it comes to corruption and acts of inhumanity......

No one has blamed the corruption in Occupied Palestinian on this forum on the Israel., the only person to have even implied that is you, in your missive, simply so as to deflect the readers from the true barbaric nature of Jewish people in Israel in denying Palestinian access to water, under there own feet. That is a RACIST IDEOLOGY. By not allowing access to water. Limits the economic development. .


So far all you have done is manipulate facts. Like a typical Israeli Jewish person.


Salaam



Ash

[UmmZakariya]

Well, here's some evidence for you, perhaps when you have opened the link, you might want to also click onto the video link and see the video while your reading the report. Oh, and I have not used a "Zionist" website, just in case you think it's a load of propaganda, but then, you'd probably find some form of excuse to try and make out that it's all a big fabrication.

undefined http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/UNRWAs_Hamas_Employees.asp


I'm not about to trust an honestreporting link full stop.

everyone else have a read of this:

http://jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.com/2004_10_01_jewssansfrontieres_archive.html
Monday, October 04, 2004
Now Israel declares open season on UN ambulances
The UN today accused Israel of lying about the use of ambulances for armed attacks. They said that video released by Israel shows a stretcher being loaded on to an ambulance. The Israelis said last week that the object was a Qassam rocket. Imagine with all their state-of-the-art technology making a mistake like that. You don't think it was deliberate do you? And if so why? Less than two weeks ago Shuli Davidovich, spokeswoman for the Israeli embassy in London said that there were "numerous examples" of Palestinians using ambulances to launch attacks on Israel. A regular Zionist visitor to this blog admitted that he only knew of one and the Guardian. readers' editor said that he didn't know of any, in spite of having happily published Davidovich's latest lie. It looks to me that Israel is storing up "justifications" for firing on ambulances. Of course I could be wrong.

Comments on this blog:

And as for the question of the Qassam or the stretcher: One hopes that the UN team that looks into the Israeli accusations will get to the real truth of the matter. Perhaps it also ought to have a talk with Zohar Shapira, a sergeant major in the reserves who is in the elite Sayeret Matkal unit. He participated in Operation Defensive Shield in April 2002 and was astounded to discover that the IDF was using military ambulances to surreptitiously transport troops on their way to apprehend suspects in Yazid, north of Nablus. His commanders told him that this was a war and that ambulances were the most protected vehicles at their disposal. The UN committee would hear Shapira complain about the misuse of ambulances - by both sides, but as an Israeli he is also upset about the hypocrisy of the IDF and government spokespeople.

- Amira Hass, What would Israel do without UNRWA?
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintArticleEn.jhtml?itemNo=485500

2. Another incident occurred during clashes between Palestinian children in Nablus and the Israeli army. The children were throwing stones at the Israeli army, and a group of Israeli soldiers were firing at the Palestinian children. While we were passing through the area in our ambulance, several of the soldiers began to surround the ambulance and took it over... The Israeli soldiers took our ambulance and began driving it so that they could move around more freely in a PRCS ambulance for their own purposes. They did this for about one hour before a representative for the ICRC came and demanded that the Israeli army return the ambulance.

-- MAHMOUD HUSSIN BAJAWI, 'IDF soldiers took our ambulance and began driving it' http://www.fromoccupiedpalestine.org/node.php?id=891

courtesy of Father Ted who posted this on Jews sans Fronteriers

[Mr Sin]

[QUOTE=UmmZakariya]I'm not about to trust an honestreporting link full stop.

QUOTE]

and fromoccupiedpalestine?

Even the names bull****.

[UmmZakariya]

See i should delete your post but i wont it shows the way Zionists think...you disagree Palestine is occupied... and you think we would believe anthing from memri or 'honest' reporting... :nono:

[Mr Sin]

See i should delete your post but i wont it shows the way Zionists think...you disagree Palestine is occupied... and you think we would believe anthing from memri or 'honest' reporting... :nono:

No - but I think it's vital that I understand your point of view. Rightly or wrongly it's valid becuase it exists.

Likewise I'd expect you to understand mine before deleting something you find uncomfortable.

That much I thank you for so far.

[Maevi]

br ash,

Bit of a contradiction isn't it? one minute you whinge about the fence and the next you're for it, well it's doing its job of keeping out the sadistic Palestinian terrorists, and that's all it needs to do, so get used to it being there!

Yeah, anything to protect Arabs eh? blame it on the Israelis, this is typical of pro-Palestinian supporters, but then perhaps you are Palestinian? The Swastikas is more down their road along with the Arabs greatest allie, the Germans, oh, and I don't mean all of Germany but those who browse these type of forums looking for a bit of "Jew bashing", perhaps you should take a look at some other forums and see how the Palestinians and Nazis have so much in common, they often "unite" together, just like they did in WW2, along with other Arab Nations.

I suggest, instead of telling me to sort out my own back yard you should take at look at the mess the World's in because of Islamic terrorism, yes, you tell me what the people of Madrid did to be blown up? or the people in Bali? or the those in Turkey? and the Twin Towers etc. What did the children in Beslan do to be slaughtered my Islamic militants?

Oh yes Dir Yassin, well, sounds like you are also one of these people who likes to fabricate their story, maybe you should type it into your web browser and then read up about Dir Yassin. You see, your vicious lies about raping and torture, just aswell I don't believe such garbage, oh and ask yourself a very big question, as to why the Israelis attacked this village? oh, but then, in your eyes it would be ok for the the Israelis to be constantly shot at but not to retaliate right? Oh and if it's a bit of "point scoring" you want, why don't we look at some Arab massacres shall we, what about Arafats massacres in Lebanon, how about DAMOUR! how about some Arab butchery, tying a mans legs and arms to four vehicles and then driving the vehicles away ripping off his legs and arms from his body and the limbs dangling behind the vehicles.

So, you loathe racists do you, well take a hard look at your post, and then ask yourself what racism is! you accuse the Jews of rape and torture at Dir Yassin, next you'll be accusing the Jews of raping and torturing at Sabra and Shatilla, when we all know that the Lebanese committed such acts! I suggest you step down from your racist attitude and start addressing the Israelis as ISRAELIS, would you like me to call your Arab friends FASCIST ZIONISTS, or maybe FASCISTS TERRORISTS! Got a big problem with JEWS have you?

There you go, whinging about the water again, never mind the Palestinians on their suicide missions, you go on about water, well, I go on about suicide bombings, and until the Palestinians can learn how to BEHAVE! and stop the terrorism, then, the Israelis might relent a little, but hey, you wouldn't like to be living with the thought of being blown to pieces every time you step on a bus, would you? or does your Country welcome terrorism with open arms. Perhaps you don't mind the thought of your Country being blown to bits by suicide bombers.

HA! HA! :D "No one is blaming the Israelis" ??, oh no, you wouldn't do that would you? You are just quite happy to blame the JEWS and the ZIONISTS instead, oh, how silly of me to think Jews and Zionists have anything to do with Israelis! :rolleyes:

Oh, and I have manipulated facts have I? I think maybe you have a very warped and fabricated mind, and you are quite racist! I don't care much for racism, so please explain to me, what is a "typical Israeli Jewish person" as you have labelled me so! it would be quite interesting to hear your "racist views" on a typical ISRAELI JEW!

[Maevi]

UmmZakariya,

You are not about to trust an "Honest reporting" article, well, not much hope then is there? maybe I should have found something on Al Jazeera instead, or perhaps on a website called "fabricated cr*p."

Sorry, but it must be very hard being faced with truth and photographic and video evidence, to take it all in, bit of a shock to the system don't you think? well, you know the saying "the truth hurts".

Anyway, why should I trust any links of yours eh? Haaretz is ok, but you know, what really bogs me off, is if I used Haaretz or Maariv or JP etc, I would get loads of stick from you guys because it would be classified as a "Zionist Jewish" link, yet, when it's to YOUR advantage, you use these "Zionist Jewish" links, just goes to prove that the Israelis can report on the bad things they do and admit to the bad things they have done, UNLIKE the Palestinians when reporting their news. They have never admitted to any wrong doings, becaues they try to cover up their wrongdoings or the usual thing of blaming the Israelis for everything instead. I mean, they even blame the Israelis for "poisoning Arafat" how pathetic!

[LocalGenius]

Well personally i have nothing against jews. I love the buggers. They love me and together we protest against the zionists that are terrorising the palestinians. Oh am i right to say that the zionists attacked palestine FIRST?????

Shooting children because they are no the no zone area?
Wiping out a whole village just to find a terrorist?
many more...

I mean the zionists are doing this, what do they expect in return? I'm just confused... what DO THEY expect in return, for palestinians to kiss them on their feet for bombing their houses? whhooo i dont know where your from but that doesnt happen anymore. I think palestinians are simply protecting themselves.

Oh and brother ash mentioned "as long as the fence is on Israeli Land" which we all know it isnt. Arabs and Israelis live together peacefully?? that wall aint helping. Stop bombing houses?No suicide bombs. Its simple

[br ash]

br ash,

Bit of a contradiction isn't it? one minute you whinge about the fence and the next you're for it, well it's doing its job of keeping out the sadistic Palestinian terrorists, and that's all it needs to do, so get used to it being there!

QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Bit of a contradiction isn't it? one minute you whinge about the fence and the next you're for it, well it's doing its job of keeping out the sadistic Palestinian terrorists, and that's all it needs to do, so get used to it being there!

You can not read, I am all for the fence on Israeli soil, recognised by the UN, and its function is to keep out the racist fascist Zionist out of Palestinian land. READ WHAT I HAVE SAID.:D


The Swastikas is more down their road along with the Arabs greatest allie, the Germans, .

Now I mentioned about 100s of Israeli sites which have Swastikas, and there even picture of Israeli solider doing the Hell Hitler. That are sites run by Israelis. Set up by Israelis. Can not defend. Yes. So change the subject.

Its matter of fact that Zionist collaborated and were willing to even fight with Nazis, like the Stern Gang, the Stern Gang a Jewish fascist organisation even invited Eichmane of to Palestine.

It is these same Zionist that when they could have saved over 50,000 innocent Jews from the gas chambers, preferred sending these Jews to the gas chambers because they did not meet the Zionist agenda.

It is a fact that Nazi are racist, it’s a fact that Zionist collaborated with Nazi, they even sent 50,0000 of their brethren to the gas chambers when they could have saved them.

There is no question that Zionist are racist = Nazis



I suggest, instead of telling me to sort out my own back yard you should take at look at the mess the World's in because of Islamic terrorism...........

“Judaic Terrorism”

Again the issue then comes again, what did the 50,000 innocent Jews do deserve being sent to the gas chambers, when they could have been saved. An example of “Judaic Terrorism”

Another example of Judaic terrorism Dir Yassin. The raping of women. The Killing of pregnant women. The slaughter of children. The butchering of old men women. Judaic terrorism

Breslan was a reaction of Russia genocide in the Chechnya, over the last 80 years. Every one knows that. Even America support indirectly Chechnya. America reasons are the supply of oil. Putin begged Blair to convince Bush to support and help Russia against the Chechnya. No such luck.



So, you loathe racists do you, well take a hard look at your post, and then ask yourself what racism is! you accuse the Jews of rape and torture at Yir Dassin,

Again you are miss-guided fool, it’s a fact what happened in Dir Yassin. Many. Women were raped and killed. Children were killed. Old men and women were killed that is a fact. Irony is many Jews acknowledge that, apart from Jews who have a racist mentality, otherwise known the West as Zionist.




next you'll be accusing the Jews of raping and torturing at Sabra and Shatilla, when we all know that the Lebanese committed such acts!

Only a racist would try to even imply that., so as to change the subject from there own ethnic cleansing. We all know, and so does the media in the west , that Israel knew what was going on in the camps which carried out these horrendous crime. One can expect that Zionist had no difficulty in sending 50,000 of there own brethren to the gas chambers, when they could have been saved.




There you go, whinging about the water again, never mind the Palestinians on their suicide missions, you go on about water, well,

The irony is when you deny something which is right of individual you get a reaction.

Suicide bombing is Never occurred in Israeli, until the acts of one Dr Goldstien, his action started the acts suicide bombing, this is also an acknowledge fact in west. When you point the finger of suicide bombing at Palestinians you have to observe the three fingers pointing back at Zionist Israel. The cause of suicide bombing was from the acts of a Zionist pig, whose name was Dr Goldstien. You have a problem, you go and curse him first, then by all means blame the Palestinians, for reacting in that manner, The Blame of suicide bombing, is on the heads of the Zionists. They are the cause that is an acknowledged fact.

Only a racist would not allow equal access to water. Only a racist would deny water access.

Like i have said Imagine that we were both next door neighbours, I decided to build a fence over you land. You would have me in court, Yes. What Israel has done is no different. FACT.

The quality of the life of the Palestinians has been reduced over the last 40 years. That is Israel has not allowed Palestinians water access. Desperate people are forced to do desperate things. suicide bombing only started in the last 10 years after the barbaric behaviour of Dr Goldstien.

that blame soley lies on the head of the apartheid movement in Israel. They are the cause. If you look at the racist and apartheid nature of Zionism you will get that reaction.

Look at you missive, no understanding of the nature of the Zionist facists.

Lets not forget the Zionist Scum bags who blew up Kind David Hotel, and butchered 92 innocent people, by the Irgun, with the blessing of Ben Gurion.

There are thousands and thousands of examples of ethnic cleansing to raping women, killing children by fracturing their heads of etc.

Zionists are the most racist ideology on the face of the earth.

Lets not forget the killing of Swedish UN diplomat, who ironically saved the lives of thousands of Jews, when he made comment after seeing the appalling treatment of Palestinians, Zionist *******s murdered.

The Zionist have killed there own, they killed humanitarians who were responsible from saving thousands of Jewish lives. If Zionist can do this, one can only imagine the horrors that Zionists have showered onto the Palestinians

As you live is Israel, search and read about the 100s of web sites set up by Israelis, with the Swastikas.


Salaam


Ash

[LocalGenius]

br ash you rock ...

[Mr Sin]

Oh am i right to say that the zionists attacked palestine FIRST?????




No. And your an idiot.

[UmmZakariya]

Actually i love Haretz esp the work of Amira Hass and Gideon Levy.....and i havent seen any truth or evidence...after the whole stretcher/qassam rocket incident, and the righteous shooting of little children i refuse to believe anthing the IDF tries to prove...

[UmmZakariya]

No. And your an idiot.


being very civil arent you Sin, dont zionists like to call us goyim; cockroaches, crocodiles, grasshoppers, serpents 'beasts walking on two legs' etc etc

[Mr Sin]

being very civil arent you Sin, dont zionists like to call us goyim; cockroaches, crocodiles, grasshoppers, serpents 'beasts walking on two legs' etc etc


Anybody can be an idiot UmmZakariya. Neither of our peoples have a monopoly on it.

As far as the either insults you mention, I'll leave that to my sides idiots.

[UmmZakariya]

As far as the either insults you mention, I'll leave that to my sides idiots.

thats very magnanimous of you...

[Mr Sin]

thats very magnanimous of you...


Thank you.

[LocalGenius]

MR Sin/Bin

Palestinians where living in Palestine and the ISraelis attacked them and took over their land.

Oh im sure in Moses time that must have belonged to jews what have you. But spain belonged to muslims too. That does not mean we can just go in and say it was ours because we owned it when our prophet was alive.. that was part of history man.. we got over it.. time you did and faced up to what you are doing now?

And dont get emotional and dont cry the truth hurts.. most recently it is the israelis who went on palestinian land and destroyed their homes.

[Mr Sin]

MR Sin/Bin

Palestinians where living in Palestine and the ISraelis attacked them and took over their land.

.

'Their' land?....Israeli's came and took it over...?

My Grandfather was 'Palestinian' so I'm going to be mighty depressed if you manage prove he lied to me these last two thousand years.

[br ash]

'Their' land?....Israeli's came and took it over...?

My Grandfather was 'Palestinian' so I'm going to be mighty depressed if you manage prove he lied to me these last two thousand years.


Also remember Sin the leading Jewish community in Palestine were against the Zionists, that is a Fact. As you already know I have posted an article regarding the murder of the Rabbi who was the representative of the Palestinian Jewish community.

Like I have Zionists not ONLY butchered Arabs, they butchered there own, in Iraq. Forget about that the Zionists even when they could have saved the lives of “over 50,000 Jews”, they preferred to send them to the gas chambers, SIMPLY because they did not meet the Zionist agenda.

Salaam


Ash

[Mr Sin]

Also remember Sin the leading Jewish community in Palestine were against the Zionists, that is a Fact. As you already know I have posted an article regarding the murder of the Rabbi who was the representative of the Palestinian Jewish community.

Like I have Zionists not ONLY butchered Arabs, they butchered there own, in Iraq. Forget about that the Zionists even when they could have saved the lives of “over 50,000 Jews”, they preferred to send them to the gas chambers, SIMPLY because they did not meet the Zionist agenda.

Salaam


Ash


For a start, your technique is getting boring as it as childish.

Your constant attempt to 'divide and conquer' the Zioinst / Jewish syntax is getting plain silly.

For a people who have survived every possible attempt at being eliminated - and then to turn a swampland into a nuclear / regional space power doesn't really back up your fairytales of a people who can't get it together.

Unlike your universe.

.....perhaps your projecting again.

[br ash]

For a start, your technique is getting boring as it as childish.

Your constant attempt to 'divide and conquer' the Zioinst / Jewish syntax is getting plain silly.

For a people who have survived every possible attempt at being eliminated - and then to turn a swampland into a nuclear / regional space power doesn't really back up your fairytales of a people who can't get it together.

Unlike your universe.

.....perhaps your projecting again.



50,000 Jews been sent to the Gas Chambers when they could have been saved. Only Zionist would think that it is a fairy tell.


Considering that Zionist are desperate to defend there racist ideology, they have to use professor in lonely heart and dance dressed up as Islamic scholars. BUT THEN THAT IS A FAIRY TELL IS IT NOT.:D:D:D


Salaam


Ash

[Mr Sin]

50,000 Jews been sent to the Gas Chambers when they could have been saved. Only Zionist would think that it is a fairy tell.


Considering that Zionist are desperate to defend there racist ideology, they have to use professor in lonely heart and dance dressed up as Islamic scholars. BUT THEN THAT IS A FAIRY TELL IS IT NOT.:D:D:D


Salaam


Ash


Racist ideology?

There's only one that is killing each other, Christians, Jews and everything else that it condsiders to be infidelic.

See, your projecting.

[br ash]

Racist ideology?

There's only one that is killing each other, Christians, Jews and everything else that it condsiders to be infidelic.

See, your projecting.


Yes Christians killed over 6 Million Jews, but then the Christians did consider the Jews was not infidels? But then you would have us all believing that pigs do indeed fly.

Why do you think that Zionist allowed over 50,000 Jews to the gas chambers, naturally they considered them infidels, as they did not meet the cause of Zionism, is it not?

Zionist killed there own brethren in Iraq, why because any Jew who was not willing to go to the Zionist state of Israel, they had to be Jews infidels?


Salaam


Ash

[PresidentWPM]

Yes Christians killed over 6 Million Jews, but then the Christians did consider the Jews was not infidels? But then you would have us all believing that pigs do indeed fly.

Why do you think that Zionist allowed over 50,000 Jews to the gas chambers, naturally they considered them infidels, as they did not meet the cause of Zionism, is it not?

Zionist killed there own brethren in Iraq, why because any Jew who was not willing to go to the Zionist state of Israel, they had to be Jews infidels?


Salaam


Ash

Salaams Ash,

You're supporting my theory that The Jews killed their own people. I mean who was JOSEPH Geobles? And the Hitler Syndrome where Hitler was visibly distressed at the presence of the black athlete, Jessi Owens. Jews today behave like that and I believe that Hitler is a Jew. Therefore, The Jews killed their own people.

[Mr Sin]

Salaams Ash,

You're supporting my theory that The Jews killed their own people. I mean who was JOSEPH Geobles? And the Hitler Syndrome where Hitler was visibly distressed at the presence of the black athlete, Jessi Owens. Jews today behave like that and I believe that Hitler is a Jew. Therefore, The Jews killed their own people.

Let me get this right:-

Hitler was a Jew because he killed other Jews because thats what Jews do.
Same goes for Geobles.

Brilliant analysis.

[br ash]

Salaams Ash,

You're supporting my theory that The Jews killed their own people. I mean who was JOSEPH Geobles? And the Hitler Syndrome where Hitler was visibly distressed at the presence of the black athlete, Jessi Owens. Jews today behave like that and I believe that Hitler is a Jew. Therefore, The Jews killed their own people.


MORAN i said explicitly that Zionist allowed there own brethren to the Gas Chambers, when they could have saved them, because they did not meet the Zionist agenda..

I am not supporting your theory moron, neither have you proposed any such theory. What you are doing is like a typical racist fascist pig manipulating other people discussions to suite your racist fascist moronic agenda.

Please All accept my apologies, if I have offended any one other than PresidentWPM, in using these words.

One just has to remember in one of your threads Surhto was dead then in another he was alive. You do not and will not know what you are talking about.

As they say in the west once a moron always a moronn AND that is what you are.



Salaam


Ash