Chechnya

[Hafiz]

I recently got this email:

"European Court of Human Rights Condemns Russia in Three Cases from Chechnya

The European Court of Human Rights today unanimously condemned Russia for the enforced disappearance of 13 men in different locations in Chechnya between January 2001 and January 2003, Russian Justice Initiative said on Thursday, 12 March 2009.

Dzhambekova and Others v. Russia (nos. 27238/03 and 35078/04) concerns the disappearances of Rizvan Tatariyev, Sharpudi Visaitov, Magomed Soltymuradov and Imran Dzhambekov. Russian military servicemen detained Rizvan and Sharpudi in the village of Gekhi, Urus-Martan district, Chechnya, on 22 December 2001. Magomed was arrested by military servicemen at his home in Urus-Martan on 11 January 2002. On 19 March 2002 servicemen detained Imran in the village of Goyty, Urus-Martan district. The domestic investigation concluded that it was likely that the disappeared men were detained by Russian servicemen but it failed to establish the whereabouts of the disappeared men as well as the identity of the servicemen who carried out the detentions. In December 2002, two female applicants in the case were detained during a peaceful manifestation against the disappearance of their close relatives. Between 11 and 15 December 2002, the two elderly women were held in deplorable conditions in the Gudermes ROVD.

The applicants in Elsiyev and Others v. Russia (no. 21816/03) are relatives of 8 men who disappeared between 2 and 7 September 2002 in the village of Tsotsi-Yurt during a large security operation by Russian military forces. The disappeared men are Salakh Elsiyev, Iskhadzhi Demelkhanov, Akhmed Demilkhanov, Adam Boltiyev, Lom-Ali Abubakarov, Ramzan Mandiyev, Aslambek Agmerzayev and Dzhabrail Debishev. The authorities acknowledged that a security operation was carried out in Tsotsi-Yurt but denied having detained the applicants’ relatives. However, numerous villagers testified how the men were arrested by military servicemen and taken to a filtering point in an old mill.

Khadayeva and Others v. Russia (no. 5351/04) concerns the disappearance of Ali Khadayev after he was arrested by Russian military servicemen at his home in Urus-Martan, Chechnya, on 5 January 2003. There has been no news of him since.

In today’s judgments the ECtHR unanimously held that:

The right to life has been violated in respect of the disappeared persons who must be presumed dead (violation of Article 2 of the European Convention on Human Rights);
* The Russian authorities had failed to conduct effective investigations into the violations of the right to life (violation of Article 2);
* The applicants’ relatives and two of the applicants in Dzhambekova had been illegally detained (violation of Article 5);
* The manner in which the complaints of the applicants were dealt with by Russian authorities, and the detention of two of the applicants in Dzhambekova, constituted inhuman treatment (violation of Article 3);
* The applicants did not have access to an effective remedy before Russian authorities for the violations (violation of Article 13).

The ECtHR awarded the applicants in the three cases a total of 522 000 euro for pecuniary and non-pecuniary damages.

For more information please visit to official web page of ECHR..."

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Anyone else hear of this?

[Abdul Hafiz]

Anyone else hear of this?

Brother, please wake up. Most Muslims have not got a clue about the state of the ummah and all the places where our brethren suffer. I did not know who the Rohinga were until the kuffar reported their plight on the news - so I am also among the multitude of the ignorant. We preoccupy ourselves with cause célèbre - ie Palestine, while being mostly oblivious to other suffering Muslims. Much good that does us (not!) but we simply don't give a flying f**k really.

Personally, I have been following the Chechen conflict for years, being originally from Russia, and the cases you have posted are but a few among many. But your average Muslim simply knows some of the names - Palestine, Chechnya - without any knowledge of situation or history of the conflicts, and what's more tragic, is unwilling to do anything serious at all. After all, the building of yet another local masjid of which his/her uncle will be council member or sending money back to Anystan is more important.

[RashidGhazi]

It’s a very gruesome what has, and continues to happen in Chechnya during the first war, and then the second, and that isn’t even the beginning, we have to remember the mass deportation of Chechens to Siberia and Imam Shamil (ra) fight with the drunkards. Sadly many Muslim organisation do no justice to raise an ounce of awareness to lesser known conflicts, including MPAC. Sad indeed.

[Hafiz]

Dubai police accuse Russian backed Chechen Deputy Prime Minister

http://www.france24.com/en/20090406-police-accuse-chechen-politician-masterminding-assassination-dubai

[Mikebloke]

There seemed to be some confusion over whether the guy in question is actually dead or not. He hasn't jumped up and waved to tell everyone he is alive though. Its sad to see that the Russian mafia styled dealings has breached into the Middle East.

[ENIGMA]

Mike, if you're dodgy and got summat to hide, Dubai is the place to go.

No end of dodgy characters are there.

[Hafiz]

bump. bump. bump.

[Illuminate]

But your average Muslim simply knows some of the names - Palestine, Chechnya - without any knowledge of situation or history of the conflicts, and what's more tragic, is unwilling to do anything serious at all.
most muslim don't know the history about anything to do with islam and muslim... most muslim think islam started when they decided to actually associate themselves with the religion...

[Abdul Hafiz]

most muslim don't know the history about anything to do with islam and muslim... most muslim think islam started when they decided to actually associate themselves with the religion...

that is just soooo true in a way

[Hafiz]

Islamic Relief's Chechnya page:

http://www.islamic-relief.com/wherewework/CountryPage.aspx?CountryID=RU

[Hafiz]

Reuters' Chechnya page:

http://www.alertnet.org/db/crisisprofiles/RU_WAR.htm?v=newsdesk

[Hafiz]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Chechnya_and_Caucasus.png

[Hafiz]

Russia 'ends Chechnya operation'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8001495.stm

[Abdul Hafiz]

The page of the Chechen resistance movement:

http://www.kavkazcenter.com/

There are others but I will let you do the searching...

[JerseyLily]

That map would explain why the Chechens are inclined toward Sufism.

Asne Seirstadt has written a good book of Chechen recently called the Angel of Grozny, she is a Finnish journalist and it's worth a read. The governement are very corrupt and ruthless if her book is true.

[Abdul Hafiz]

The governement are very corrupt and ruthless if her book is true.

My Chechen friends report the same...

[GCarty]

I suggest that if you want to help the Chechens, a Europe-wide campaign in support of nuclear energy (and against non-solutions like wind turbines) would help in a big way.

The more nuclear power stations Europe has, the less gas it will need to buy from Gazprom (and therefore the less money Russia will have to spend on its war machine). The Russians are aware of this, which is why they pay corrupt politicians such as Gerhard Schroeder to oppose nuclear energy. (Maybe that's also why they used polonium to assassinate Litvinenko - because they wanted to incite a new round of anti-nuclear hysteria in the West...)

Go nuclear, and de-fund the Russian warmongers!

[Raashid]

Brother, please wake up. Most Muslims have not got a clue about the state of the ummah and all the places where our brethren suffer. I did not know who the Rohinga were until the kuffar reported their plight on the news - so I am also among the multitude of the ignorant. We preoccupy ourselves with cause célèbre - ie Palestine, while being mostly oblivious to other suffering Muslims. Much good that does us (not!) but we simply don't give a flying f**k really.
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I'm not sure that's entirely true, what exactly can the wider Muslim world do about Chechnya, given that Russia is a nation with Islam hatred deeply ingrained in its culture and society, an aggressive national pride and a vast nuclear arsenal at its disposal? If anything, Chechen resistance, much like the Palestinian one, is as much to blame for their tactical blunder in seeking a glorious jihad against Russia, thus giving the enemy the political cover they sought to crack down brutally on them, rather then wait patiently for demographics to deal with the enemy without a single shot needing to be fired (or life lost).

Rallying around the Palestinian cause makes more sense because the aggressor in that conflict cannot operate without the backing of major Western powers, in particular the US and UK. Russia's brutality within its recognised borders on the other hand, cannot be stayed by any outside influence.

[Raashid]

Go nuclear, and de-fund the Russian warmongers!

Is there any reason to believe tha a dimishing of Russia economically will somehow reduce their brutality?

[GCarty]

Is there any reason to believe tha a dimishing of Russia economically will somehow reduce their brutality?Why do Muslims boycott Israeli goods, given that logic? (Especially when Russia must build or buy its weapons, while Israel gets many of its weapons for free from the Americans...)

[GCarty]

Is there any reason to believe tha a dimishing of Russia economically will somehow reduce their brutality?
I forgot to mention on my previous post, but are you not aware of how the Soviet Empire fell?

The madness of Trofim Lysenko had wrecked Soviet agriculture to the point where by the 1960s the Soviets had to import food from Western countries. How were they to pay for this food? They couldn't do it by exporting manufactured goods, because Soviet industry was so specialized for war that its consumer products were largely junk. Instead they relied on oil and gas exports to raise the hard currency they desperately needed to feed themselves.

When the Soviets attacked the Muslims of Afghanistan, the Saudis and other Muslim oil exporters responded by opening up their oil valves full blast. The price of oil fell through the floor, and the Soviet Empire went bankrupt.