Ali Abdullah
18-12-2007, 04:34 AM
Even if MPACUK finds out who the researchers are - what then??
http:// hurryupharry.bloghouse.net/
Shut Down the Peddlers of Hate?
Posted by david t
Searchlight has been running a campaign, for some time now, to shut down a particularly obnoxious and dangerous fascist website called "Redwatch":
Alec McFadden, president of Merseyside Trades Council, was almost blinded in a knife attack in front of his two young daughters in their Merseyside home in May. He had coordinated a campaign against the British National Party and his name, picture and address appeared on the Redwatch website together with hundreds of others.
This was just the latest of several attacks on people whose details appeared on Redwatch or other far-right websites that openly incite violence against those who oppose nazism and racism.
I do not think that there is any real objection to discussing individuals who are actively involved in politics. If those individuals run for elected office, or are active in pressing for a particular line within a political party or trade union, it is valuable that what those people believe is widely known and discussed. Both those who support or oppose a particular person's politics benefit from such a culture of open debate.
However, when the purpose of identifying a particular person is to expose them to attack by murderous assailants, there is in my view a strong argument for shutting down the websites and punishing their publishers
That is so with Redwatch. It is also so, with respect to the Tablighi Jamaat supporter who was the producer of a mock "obituary" video, identifying a politician's children, on Youtube. The Islamist who posted that video - a man called Mohammad Abdullah - was later arrested by the police.
We can also add to that list, the Muslim Public Affairs Committee ("MPAC"): another far right organisation, which has now issued a call to "hunt" down political and religious dissenters in a manner which cannot fail but expose them to a genuine risk of extreme personal harm.
The campaign in question is connected to the Policy Exchange report into extremist literature in British muslim institutions; in relation to which Newsnight discovered certain irregularities relating to receipts. During the course of the Newsnight programme in question, the BBC announced the whereabouts of the muslim researchers. It goes without saying that, if you're investigating violent political extremism, and you're identity is announced, your personal safety is gravely jeopardised.
MPAC, which has a history of republishing material from Neo Nazi websites, then put up an article which encouraged its readers to help it "hunt" down the muslim researchers who had purchased the extremist literature at muslim institutions.
The article - and the comments which follow, some sane and some disturbing - is worth reading in full. Here are a few extracts:
You would have to be sitting in a darkened room repeating the name of Allah since 7/7 to be unaware that the new front against Muslims by the Government is being led by Sufi cults.
It’s an old Russian trick, they used Sufi sects to pacify the Mujahadeen who were fighting for their freedom from occupation. These Sufi cults taught them to forget the world and be content sitting in darkened rooms repeating the name of Allah over and over and over again. The British used it in India too
...
However there are many Sufi groups operating throughout Britain doing work to pacify the Muslim mind.
...
These Sufi researchers then fled the country to XXXXXXXXX for what the Zio-Con think tank called ‘religious purification’!
MPAC now wants to find out exactly who these Sufis are, who are working for the Zio-Con think tank.
...
Who are they, what are their backgrounds … MPACUK will dig deeper and expose every last detail of the Sufis who tried to destroy their own community.
If you know who they are – please write in and we will expose these men and women for all the Muslim community to see. Write in now and let us do what the incompetent idiots in the Mosque should be doing, protecting our community.
The researchers in question are private individuals. They are not running for political office. They were not even the authors of the research. There is no legitimate reason why their identities should be public.
By contrast, it is very clear that these researchers are in very real danger of being physically attacked by, not to put to fine a point upon it, murderous religious extremists.
Perhaps the time has not yet come to call for MPAC to be shut down and its operators prosecuted and imprisoned. However, in calling for these blameless and public spirited individuals to be hunted down, MPAC has come very close to the line.
I hope that the police and the security services are watching them very closely indeed.
http:// hurryupharry.bloghouse.net/
Shut Down the Peddlers of Hate?
Posted by david t
Searchlight has been running a campaign, for some time now, to shut down a particularly obnoxious and dangerous fascist website called "Redwatch":
Alec McFadden, president of Merseyside Trades Council, was almost blinded in a knife attack in front of his two young daughters in their Merseyside home in May. He had coordinated a campaign against the British National Party and his name, picture and address appeared on the Redwatch website together with hundreds of others.
This was just the latest of several attacks on people whose details appeared on Redwatch or other far-right websites that openly incite violence against those who oppose nazism and racism.
I do not think that there is any real objection to discussing individuals who are actively involved in politics. If those individuals run for elected office, or are active in pressing for a particular line within a political party or trade union, it is valuable that what those people believe is widely known and discussed. Both those who support or oppose a particular person's politics benefit from such a culture of open debate.
However, when the purpose of identifying a particular person is to expose them to attack by murderous assailants, there is in my view a strong argument for shutting down the websites and punishing their publishers
That is so with Redwatch. It is also so, with respect to the Tablighi Jamaat supporter who was the producer of a mock "obituary" video, identifying a politician's children, on Youtube. The Islamist who posted that video - a man called Mohammad Abdullah - was later arrested by the police.
We can also add to that list, the Muslim Public Affairs Committee ("MPAC"): another far right organisation, which has now issued a call to "hunt" down political and religious dissenters in a manner which cannot fail but expose them to a genuine risk of extreme personal harm.
The campaign in question is connected to the Policy Exchange report into extremist literature in British muslim institutions; in relation to which Newsnight discovered certain irregularities relating to receipts. During the course of the Newsnight programme in question, the BBC announced the whereabouts of the muslim researchers. It goes without saying that, if you're investigating violent political extremism, and you're identity is announced, your personal safety is gravely jeopardised.
MPAC, which has a history of republishing material from Neo Nazi websites, then put up an article which encouraged its readers to help it "hunt" down the muslim researchers who had purchased the extremist literature at muslim institutions.
The article - and the comments which follow, some sane and some disturbing - is worth reading in full. Here are a few extracts:
You would have to be sitting in a darkened room repeating the name of Allah since 7/7 to be unaware that the new front against Muslims by the Government is being led by Sufi cults.
It’s an old Russian trick, they used Sufi sects to pacify the Mujahadeen who were fighting for their freedom from occupation. These Sufi cults taught them to forget the world and be content sitting in darkened rooms repeating the name of Allah over and over and over again. The British used it in India too
...
However there are many Sufi groups operating throughout Britain doing work to pacify the Muslim mind.
...
These Sufi researchers then fled the country to XXXXXXXXX for what the Zio-Con think tank called ‘religious purification’!
MPAC now wants to find out exactly who these Sufis are, who are working for the Zio-Con think tank.
...
Who are they, what are their backgrounds … MPACUK will dig deeper and expose every last detail of the Sufis who tried to destroy their own community.
If you know who they are – please write in and we will expose these men and women for all the Muslim community to see. Write in now and let us do what the incompetent idiots in the Mosque should be doing, protecting our community.
The researchers in question are private individuals. They are not running for political office. They were not even the authors of the research. There is no legitimate reason why their identities should be public.
By contrast, it is very clear that these researchers are in very real danger of being physically attacked by, not to put to fine a point upon it, murderous religious extremists.
Perhaps the time has not yet come to call for MPAC to be shut down and its operators prosecuted and imprisoned. However, in calling for these blameless and public spirited individuals to be hunted down, MPAC has come very close to the line.
I hope that the police and the security services are watching them very closely indeed.