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br ash
28-10-2004, 01:03 PM
Albert Einstein, along with twenty-seven other men and women of courage and good will, writes not only to the editor of the New York Times (04-Dec-1948), but writes also to the entire world to notify it of a great crime



New Palestine Party

Visit of Menachen Begin and Aims of
Political Movement Discussed

TO THE EDITOR OF THE NEW YORK TIMES:

Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our time is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.



The current visit of Menachen Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents.



Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin's behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement.

The public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.


Attack on Arab Village

A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants — 240 men, women and children — and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin.


The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party


Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultra-nationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model.

During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute.

The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive achievements in Palestine. They have reclaimed no land, built no settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity. Their much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to bringing in Fascist compatriots.



Discrepancies Seen

The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a "Leader State" is the goal.

In the light of the foregoing considerations, it is imperative that the truth about Mr. Begin and his movement be made known in this country. It is all the more tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has refused to campaign against Begin's efforts, or even to expose to it[s] own constituents the dangers to Israel from support to Begin.


The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism.

ISIDORE ABRAMOWITZ, HANNAH ARENDT, ABRAHAM BRICK, RABBI JESSURUN CARDOZO, ALBERT EINSTEIN, HERMAN EISEN, M.D., HAYIM FINEMAN, M. GALLEN, M.D., H.H. HARRIS, ZELIG S. HARRIS, SIDNEY HOOK, FRED KARUSH, BRURIA KAUFMAN, IRMA L. LINDHEIM, NACHMAN MAJSEL, SEYMOUR MELMAN, MYER D. MENDELSON, M.D., HARRY M. ORLINSKY, SAMUEL PITLICK, FRITZ ROHRLICH, LOUIS P. ROCKER, RUTH SAGER, ITZHAK SANKOWSKY, I.J. SHOENBERG, SAMUEL SHUMAN, M. ZNGER, IRMA WOLPE, STEFAN WOLPE.

New York, Dec. 2, 1948.

br ash
28-10-2004, 04:37 PM
These Rabbis Are Rabid

Tariq A. Al-Maeena, close_encounters@gawab.com

http://www.arabnews.com/page=7&section=0&article=52620&d=9&m=10&y=2004

A news item that would never make it to the front pages of the US press caught my attention the other day. It seems that some Israeli rabbis have decreed the Israeli Army not shy away from killing Palestinian civilians in the context of the ongoing military campaign against armed groups resisting the illegal occupation of their lands.

Writing to Shaul Mofaz, the Israeli defense minister, the rabbis stated that killing enemy civilians is “normal” during the time of war and that the Israeli occupation army should never hesitate to kill non-Jewish civilians.

The signatory parties to this heinous edict include Haim Druckman, a former Knesset member and leader of a large religious youth movement known as the Bnei Akiva Society; Eliezer Melamed, who heads a West Bank religious college; and Youval Sharlo, the head of another Talmudic college in Petah Tikva which combines Talmudic studies with active military service.

Another prominent rabbi, Dov Lior, in the illegally occupied Jewish settlement of Kiryat Arbaa in the territories near Hebron issued a statute some time back stating that non-Jewish civilians may be killed to save Jewish lives, soldiers and civilians alike. The rabbi argued that non-Jewish lives had no sanctity, especially during the time of war.

Now here’s a rabbi who feverishly advanced the cause of the killing of Palestinian civilians in Rafah in southern Gaza earlier this year, saying that “it is very clear in light of the Torah that Jewish lives are more important than non-Jewish lives”.

What would possess these men of the cloth to justify the killing of the innocent? In articulating their murderous theological positions, Lior and other like-minded rabbis rely on an old Talmudic maxim that states that it is an imperative religious duty to kill enemy civilians in wartime.

They quote a Talmudic ruling, stating, “Our lives come first”.

“The Christian preaching of ‘turning the other cheek’ doesn’t concern us, and we will not be impressed by those who prefer the lives of our enemies to our lives,” they say.

Rabbi Lior has gone public with his praise and eulogy for Baruch Goldstein, a New Yorker Jew settler who in 1994 mowed down 29 Arab worshippers while they were offering their prayers at Hebron’s Ibrahimi Mosque. Referring to the terrorist Goldstein as a “great saint”, the rabbi stated that a “thousand non-Jewish lives are not worth a Jew’s fingernail”.

And while some rabbis within Conservative and Reform Judaism do not share the Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox view of non-Jews, they have very little political influence in Israel and are generally viewed with disdain by the powerful Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox branches, which view them as inferior Jews.

These religious terrorists shield themselves behind the cloak of faith to vent and promote their murderous intent. And judging from the slaughter of the innocent that is currently in progress in Gaza and elsewhere, they appear to have succeeded. Just imagine. A public proclamation for the execution of the innocent! A message of terrorism so blatant and such an affront to humanity. And yet nary a condemnation in the US press. Ever wonder why?

A sea of pathetic cries of ‘anti-Semitism’ would smother any bold and honest editor who dared attempt print such truth into submission, and into a different profession.

PresidentWPM
25-11-2004, 10:14 PM
These Rabbis Are Rabid

These religious terrorists shield themselves behind the cloak of faith to vent and promote their murderous intent. And judging from the slaughter of the innocent that is currently in progress in Gaza and elsewhere, they appear to have succeeded. Just imagine. A public proclamation for the execution of the innocent! A message of terrorism so blatant and such an affront to humanity. And yet nary a condemnation in the US press. Ever wonder why?

A sea of pathetic cries of ‘anti-Semitism’ would smother any bold and honest editor who dared attempt print such truth into submission, and into a different profession.
The US press is mostly owned by Zionists, same as the British press and that of other western countries. In fact, mercenaries are used to infiltrate non-western press companies and those that don't fall into line are persecuted and their journalists killed like Al-Jazeera.

Smiley
15-01-2007, 01:47 PM
"In my opinion, it would be more reasonable to reach an agreement with the Arabs based on sharing life peacefully together, rather than to create a Jewish state with borders, an army and a project of temporal power, no matter how modest it is. I fear the internal damage that Judaism will sustain due to the development, in our ranks, of a narrow nationalism. We are not anymore the Jews of the Maccabees period.To become again a nation in the political sense of the world will be equivalent to turning away from the spiritualization of our community that we owe to the generosity of our prophets."

Albert Einstein 1938

eureka

Murray Polner and Naomi Goodman, eds., The Challenge of Shalom: The Jewish Tradition of Peace and Justice (1994), p. 204

Smiley
15-01-2007, 01:50 PM
http://www.csjo.org/pages/essays/essayeinsteinbennett.htm

Einstein's Zionism would be barely recognizable today, because it did not include support for a Jewish state. He favored the creation of a "national home" that would welcome Jewish immigrants and foster Jewish cultural development within the framework of a bi-national state that would guarantee equal rights to Arabs. His model may have been Switzerland, which is divided into regions ("cantons") where various nationalities enjoy autonomy. In 1938, for example, he asserted that he would "much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state."

Smiley
15-01-2007, 01:51 PM
One of the first people who criticized Israel immediately after its Independence was Albert Einstein who co-authored a letter to the editor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_to_the_editor) of the New York Times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times) criticizing it for the massacres at Deir Yassin. Einstein, Albert, Hannah Arendt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannah_Arendt), Sidney Hook (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Hook). "New Palestine Party Visit of Menachen Begin and Aims of Political Movement Discussed", New York Times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times), 1948 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948)-12-04 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_4).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism

iraniboy
15-01-2007, 07:35 PM
One of the first people who criticized Israel immediately after its Independence was Albert Einstein who co-authored a letter to the editor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_to_the_editor) of the New York Times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times) criticizing it for the massacres at Deir Yassin. Einstein, Albert, Hannah Arendt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannah_Arendt), Sidney Hook (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Hook). "New Palestine Party Visit of Menachen Begin and Aims of Political Movement Discussed", New York Times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times), 1948 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948)-12-04 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_4).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism
I've also heard that Einstein was proposed to be the first president of Israel but he rejected!

Smiley
16-01-2007, 12:24 PM
I've also heard that Einstein was proposed to be the first president of Israel but he rejected!

yep............................... apparently

Aayeeshaa
16-01-2007, 01:06 PM
Einstein was an atheist. His use of the word god was metaphorical and was a synonym for nature.

iraniboy
16-01-2007, 01:13 PM
Einstein was an atheist. His use of the word god was metaphorical and was a synonym for nature.
But I've heard that he was a jew.

Aayeeshaa
16-01-2007, 01:23 PM
he was born jewish, but didn't believe in a super-natural creator

Smiley
16-01-2007, 01:27 PM
i posted this about THE albert einstein and his thoughts on israel lol not really as him as a jew

Irreligion
16-01-2007, 02:58 PM
im not so sure that Einstein was an atheist , but he did seem to understand that religion is not neccessary to live your life in an moral way

"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."

Aayeeshaa
16-01-2007, 03:25 PM
he wasn't religious though

people of the book
16-01-2007, 03:31 PM
he wasn't religious though

he was not into organised religion, but he was inspired by Jewish mysticism and metaphysics ;)
he displayed the virtues of a spiritual man, so i believe he was 'religious', but not in the conventional sense.

Aayeeshaa
16-01-2007, 03:37 PM
It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. [Albert Einstein, 1954, from Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University Press]

his own words

thehook
17-01-2007, 01:16 AM
he was born jewish, but didn't believe in a super-natural creator


"I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details." Albert Einstein

"God does not play dice" - and to Him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." Albert Einstein.

His own words

thehook
17-01-2007, 01:20 AM
Assalaamu alaikum

Article in The News, Lahore which quoted an excerpt from an article written by Einstein some 15 years before his death.

"Strange is our situation here upon earth. Each of us comes for a short visit, not knowing why, yet sometimes seeming to divine a purpose. From the standpoint of daily life, however, there is one thing we do know: that man is here for the sake of other men -- above all for those upon whose smile and well-being our own happiness depends, and also for the countless unknown souls with whose fate we are connected by a bond of sympathy. Many times a day I realize how much my own outer and inner life is built upon the labors of my fellow-men, both living and dead, and how earnestly I must exert myself in order to give in return as much as I have received.

My peace of mind of often troubled by the depressing sense that I have borrowed too heavily from the work of other men. "The ideals which have always shone before me and filled me with the joy of living are goodness, beauty, and truth. To make a goal of comfort or happiness have never appealed to me; a system of ethics built on this basis would be sufficient only for a herd of cattle. Possession, outward success, publicity, luxury to me have always been contemptible. I believe that a simple and unassuming manner of life is best for everyone, best both for the body and the mind. My passionate interest in social justice and social responsibility has always stood in curious contrast to a marked lack of desire for direct association with men and women. I am a horse for single harness, not cut out for tandem or team work.

I have never belonged wholeheartedly to country or state, to my circle of friends, or even to my own family. These ties have always been accompanied by a vague aloofness, and the wish to withdrew into myself increases with the years. Such isolation is sometimes bitter, but I do not regret being cut off from the understanding and sympathy of other men. I lose something by it, to be sure, but I am compensated for it being rendered independent of the customs, opinions, and prejudices of others, and am not tempted to rest my peace of mind upon such shifting foundations.

My political ideal is democracy. Everyone should be respected as an individual, but no one idolized... The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes and ears closed. The insight into the mystery of life, coupled though it be with fear, has also given rise to religion.

To know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their most primitive form -- this knowledge, this feeling, is at the center of true religiousness, and in this sense only, I belong in the ranks of devoutly religious men.

I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after his own -- a God, in short, is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear of ridiculous egotism."

http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/mar2005-weekly/nos-13-03-2005/lit.htm

He believed in a God but not as we know it...

"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings."

"God does not play dice (with the universe)"

Allah SWT knows best.

Wassalaam