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Allahu Akbar
24-07-2005, 10:54 PM
A Muslim scholar (sheikh) was on a visit to China to give a series of lectures to the local Muslim community. One day, he was scheduled to give a lecture at a local hall and was about to take a taxi along with his companions to that location.
They got into the taxi and the Sheikh asked about the length of time it would take to get to the lecture hall. The taxi driver, through the interpreter, answered "Two hours."
The Sheikh immediately turned to his companions and said: "well, we can't sit in this taxi with the driver for two hours and not tell him about our religion. If we did that then we would be no different than any other non-Muslim or kaffir who uses this taxi. We are the people that Allah (SWT) chose to carry His message and honoured us to be Muslims. It is our duty
to tell this person about Islam."
However, the driver was a native Chinese and didn't have a common language with the Sheikh. They had to communicate through an interpreter.
Sheikh (to interpreter): "Ask the man if he believes in any religion?"
Driver: "No, I don't believe in religion. I just get up in the morning, go to work and earn money. At the end of the day, I collect my money, go buy some food and drink for my family. What do I need religion for?"
Sheikh (thru interpreter): "Ask this man if he has ever heard anything about Islam."
Driver: "Not much. I've seen a tape once and showed Muslims as violent people. I don't know much else."
Sheikh (thru interpreter):"Ask him about computers. What does he think of computer?"
Driver:"I think the computer is an excellent invention. It is very useful and very sophisticated."
Sheikh:"Does he think that the computer could have invented itself or does he think that a human being invented it?"
Driver:"A human invented it, of course. It is not capable of inventing itself."
Sheikh:"Which one is more complicated the computer or the human being?"
Driver:"The human being is more complicated, of course."
Sheikh:"O.K., if the computer must have been invented by a human being, then it follows that a human being (which is more complicated) must also have a creator."
Driver:"O.K."
Sheikh:"In Islam, we believe that Allah is the creator of human beings and all other beings. Fine, now let's move on. Assume that you have never seen a computer before and never heard of it. If I brought a computer to you and gave it to you. Would you know what to do with it? Would you be able to use to its full potential?"
Driver:"No, I wouldn't."
Sheikh:"Now, if I gave you a catalogue for the computer, then you will be able to better use it? Correct?"
Driver:"Correct!"
Sheikh:"In Islam, we view Quran as the catalogue used by human beings to manage their lives. Without this catalogue, they will ruin themselves!
Now, if this inventor of the computer assembled the machine and printed the catalogue, what would be the next step? He would need to train some engineers and others on how to spread the message about this machine.
These people would, in turn, train others and others until everyone knows about the machine. In the example of Allah and Quran, the prophets of Allah play the role of the engineers. They learn the message and teach it to others so that the message will spread. Prophet Muhammad (saw) is the final
messanger of Allah and he was ordered to take the message to all human beings."
By this time, the trip was coming to an end and they almost reached the lecture hall. But the Sheikh can see that there were tears coming out of the driver's eyes. The words of the Sheikh was having a significant effect on this driver.
Driver:"These ideas are very interesting to me. Do you mind spending 15 more minutes with me to tell me about this religion?"
The Sheikh agreed to spend those few minutes with this person and did.
The man asked many questions and seemed genuine in his desire to learn more about this religion. At the end of these few minutes, the driver said: "I want to join this religion of yours. How do I do that?"
He was told that all he needs to do is say: "I bear witness that there is no God but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad (saw) is his servant and messenger."
Allahu Akbar!! Sounds simple, doesn't it? A taxi trip in the crowded streets of a Chinese city brings the light of Islam into the heart of a Chinese man. A man who started his day as an atheist never suspected that he will end his day as a muslim. There are many people out there who are thirsty for the message of Islam. Gaining them as Muslim brothers and sisters could be as simple as this TRUE story..
A Muslim scholar (sheikh) was on a visit to China to give a series of lectures to the local Muslim community. One day, he was scheduled to give a lecture at a local hall and was about to take a taxi along with his companions to that location.
They got into the taxi and the Sheikh asked about the length of time it would take to get to the lecture hall. The taxi driver, through the interpreter, answered "Two hours."
The Sheikh immediately turned to his companions and said: "well, we can't sit in this taxi with the driver for two hours and not tell him about our religion. If we did that then we would be no different than any other non-Muslim or kaffir who uses this taxi. We are the people that Allah (SWT) chose to carry His message and honoured us to be Muslims. It is our duty
to tell this person about Islam."
However, the driver was a native Chinese and didn't have a common language with the Sheikh. They had to communicate through an interpreter.
Sheikh (to interpreter): "Ask the man if he believes in any religion?"
Driver: "No, I don't believe in religion. I just get up in the morning, go to work and earn money. At the end of the day, I collect my money, go buy some food and drink for my family. What do I need religion for?"
Sheikh (thru interpreter): "Ask this man if he has ever heard anything about Islam."
Driver: "Not much. I've seen a tape once and showed Muslims as violent people. I don't know much else."
Sheikh (thru interpreter):"Ask him about computers. What does he think of computer?"
Driver:"I think the computer is an excellent invention. It is very useful and very sophisticated."
Sheikh:"Does he think that the computer could have invented itself or does he think that a human being invented it?"
Driver:"A human invented it, of course. It is not capable of inventing itself."
Sheikh:"Which one is more complicated the computer or the human being?"
Driver:"The human being is more complicated, of course."
Sheikh:"O.K., if the computer must have been invented by a human being, then it follows that a human being (which is more complicated) must also have a creator."
Driver:"O.K."
Sheikh:"In Islam, we believe that Allah is the creator of human beings and all other beings. Fine, now let's move on. Assume that you have never seen a computer before and never heard of it. If I brought a computer to you and gave it to you. Would you know what to do with it? Would you be able to use to its full potential?"
Driver:"No, I wouldn't."
Sheikh:"Now, if I gave you a catalogue for the computer, then you will be able to better use it? Correct?"
Driver:"Correct!"
Sheikh:"In Islam, we view Quran as the catalogue used by human beings to manage their lives. Without this catalogue, they will ruin themselves!
Now, if this inventor of the computer assembled the machine and printed the catalogue, what would be the next step? He would need to train some engineers and others on how to spread the message about this machine.
These people would, in turn, train others and others until everyone knows about the machine. In the example of Allah and Quran, the prophets of Allah play the role of the engineers. They learn the message and teach it to others so that the message will spread. Prophet Muhammad (saw) is the final
messanger of Allah and he was ordered to take the message to all human beings."
By this time, the trip was coming to an end and they almost reached the lecture hall. But the Sheikh can see that there were tears coming out of the driver's eyes. The words of the Sheikh was having a significant effect on this driver.
Driver:"These ideas are very interesting to me. Do you mind spending 15 more minutes with me to tell me about this religion?"
The Sheikh agreed to spend those few minutes with this person and did.
The man asked many questions and seemed genuine in his desire to learn more about this religion. At the end of these few minutes, the driver said: "I want to join this religion of yours. How do I do that?"
He was told that all he needs to do is say: "I bear witness that there is no God but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad (saw) is his servant and messenger."
Allahu Akbar!! Sounds simple, doesn't it? A taxi trip in the crowded streets of a Chinese city brings the light of Islam into the heart of a Chinese man. A man who started his day as an atheist never suspected that he will end his day as a muslim. There are many people out there who are thirsty for the message of Islam. Gaining them as Muslim brothers and sisters could be as simple as this TRUE story..
Do you have a link for this?
veritas
26-07-2005, 07:17 AM
A Muslim scholar (sheikh) was on a visit to China to give a series of lectures to the local Muslim community. One day, he was scheduled to give a lecture at a local hall and was about to take a taxi along with his companions to that location.
They got into the taxi and the Sheikh asked about the length of time it would take to get to the lecture hall. The taxi driver, through the interpreter, answered "Two hours."
The Sheikh immediately turned to his companions and said: "well, we can't sit in this taxi with the driver for two hours and not tell him about our religion. If we did that then we would be no different than any other non-Muslim or kaffir who uses this taxi. We are the people that Allah (SWT) chose to carry His message and honoured us to be Muslims. It is our duty
to tell this person about Islam."
However, the driver was a native Chinese and didn't have a common language with the Sheikh. They had to communicate through an interpreter.
Sheikh (to interpreter): "Ask the man if he believes in any religion?"
Driver: "No, I don't believe in religion. I just get up in the morning, go to work and earn money. At the end of the day, I collect my money, go buy some food and drink for my family. What do I need religion for?"
Sheikh (thru interpreter): "Ask this man if he has ever heard anything about Islam."
Driver: "Not much. I've seen a tape once and showed Muslims as violent people. I don't know much else."
Sheikh (thru interpreter):"Ask him about computers. What does he think of computer?"
Driver:"I think the computer is an excellent invention. It is very useful and very sophisticated."
Sheikh:"Does he think that the computer could have invented itself or does he think that a human being invented it?"
Driver:"A human invented it, of course. It is not capable of inventing itself."
Sheikh:"Which one is more complicated the computer or the human being?"
Driver:"The human being is more complicated, of course."
Sheikh:"O.K., if the computer must have been invented by a human being, then it follows that a human being (which is more complicated) must also have a creator."
Driver:"O.K."
Sheikh:"In Islam, we believe that Allah is the creator of human beings and all other beings. Fine, now let's move on. Assume that you have never seen a computer before and never heard of it. If I brought a computer to you and gave it to you. Would you know what to do with it? Would you be able to use to its full potential?"
Driver:"No, I wouldn't."
Sheikh:"Now, if I gave you a catalogue for the computer, then you will be able to better use it? Correct?"
Driver:"Correct!"
Sheikh:"In Islam, we view Quran as the catalogue used by human beings to manage their lives. Without this catalogue, they will ruin themselves!
Now, if this inventor of the computer assembled the machine and printed the catalogue, what would be the next step? He would need to train some engineers and others on how to spread the message about this machine.
These people would, in turn, train others and others until everyone knows about the machine. In the example of Allah and Quran, the prophets of Allah play the role of the engineers. They learn the message and teach it to others so that the message will spread. Prophet Muhammad (saw) is the final
messanger of Allah and he was ordered to take the message to all human beings."
By this time, the trip was coming to an end and they almost reached the lecture hall. But the Sheikh can see that there were tears coming out of the driver's eyes. The words of the Sheikh was having a significant effect on this driver.
Driver:"These ideas are very interesting to me. Do you mind spending 15 more minutes with me to tell me about this religion?"
The Sheikh agreed to spend those few minutes with this person and did.
The man asked many questions and seemed genuine in his desire to learn more about this religion. At the end of these few minutes, the driver said: "I want to join this religion of yours. How do I do that?"
He was told that all he needs to do is say: "I bear witness that there is no God but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad (saw) is his servant and messenger."
Allahu Akbar!! Sounds simple, doesn't it? A taxi trip in the crowded streets of a Chinese city brings the light of Islam into the heart of a Chinese man. A man who started his day as an atheist never suspected that he will end his day as a muslim. There are many people out there who are thirsty for the message of Islam. Gaining them as Muslim brothers and sisters could be as simple as this TRUE story..
Sounds the same as evangelism which Christians get so heavily slated for. :D
Sounds the same as evangelism which Christians get so heavily slated for. :D
The Sheikh did not offer the driver any material incentive, so no it is not the same Evangelism you get slated for.
It is far, far different.
veritas
26-07-2005, 03:48 PM
The Sheikh did not offer the driver any material incentive, so no it is not the same Evangelism you get slated for.
It is far, far different.
You know nothing of Evangelism. When did you last minister to the homeless here in Manchester. You certainly won't see Muslim Doctors out on the street treating homeless people for free.
The Gospel isn't even mentioned out there people just help, out of compassion. The work we do speaks more than a 100 sermons so it isn't necessary to share the Gospel.
You know nothing of Evangelism. When did you last minister to the homeless here in Manchester. You certainly won't see Muslim Doctors out on the street treating homeless people for free.
The Gospel isn't even mentioned out there people just help, out of compassion. The work we do speaks more than a 100 sermons so it isn't necessary to share the Gospel.
I dont Minister (Evagelise) to them
I just donate Money and Food when I can.
Your treated by Muslim Doctors when you go to any NHS Hospital as are Homeless people when they go.
Bible in one hand and Food in the other Veritas?
Sounds familiar, guess it is not just Africa but the streets of Manchester.
veritas
26-07-2005, 04:29 PM
I dont Minister (Evagelise) to them
I just donate Money and Food when I can.
Your treated by Muslim Doctors when you go to any NHS Hospital as are Homeless people when they go.
Bible in one hand and Food in the other Veritas?
Sounds familiar, guess it is not just Africa but the streets of Manchester.
You really have no idea. You pay your Zakat and thats enough , or you give a guy some money so he can save it up and buy some heroin. Homeless people often have problems so bad they don't even realise they are ill. The ministry I'm talking about is sitting with someone going cold turkey off heroin, cleaning him , dressing wounds etc and purely because I am moved by compassion. Where is your compassion ?
You really have no idea. You pay your Zakat and thats enough , or you give a guy some money so he can save it up and buy some heroin. Homeless people often have problems so bad they don't even realise they are ill. The ministry I'm talking about is sitting with someone going cold turkey off heroin, cleaning him , dressing wounds etc and purely because I am moved by compassion. Where is your compassion ?
My compassion?
You are so self righteous Veritas.
You do not know me and think I only pay Zakat?
I am taking a year out before University to go and help Children in Latin America because I love them as fellow Human beings, difference is you only help because you want people to become Christian.
That is what I have observed from your posts, defending the missionaries who kidnap Children, saying it is a filthy lie.
REV. MAURY DAVIS (A Nashville Pastor)
"It is a great task that you and I have to infiltrate the Muslim community, but we can do it with the help of God."
Why are you on this forum really Veritas?
If it is because you want to learn about Islam etc Then why not learn it from the Muslim sites you have demonstrated you already know?
I would respect you if you were more truthful Veritas.
I do respect your intelligence and you as a human being but not your tactics.
veritas
26-07-2005, 04:55 PM
My compassion?
You are so self righteous Veritas.
You do not know me and think I only pay Zakat?
I am taking a year out before University to go and help Children in Latin America, difference is you only help because you want them to become Christian.
That is what I have observed from your posts, defending the missionaries who kidnap Children, saying it is a filthy lie.
REV. MAURY DAVIS (A Nashville Pastor)
"It is a great task that you and I have to infiltrate the Muslim community, but we can do it with the help of God."
Why are you on this forum really Veritas.
If it is because you want to learn about Islam etc Then why not learn it from the Muslim sites you have demonstrated you already know?
I would respect you if you were more truthful Veritas.
I do respect your intelligence and you as a human being but not your tactics.
To be honest many of the posts are interesting. I disagree here and there . I was merely pointing out that we all have a social responsibility, I didn't mean to come across as self righteous I was just trying to emphasise that ministry doesn't always involve trying to win souls. Whereas you can learn from other sites etc I like the interaction, I find it stimulating. I have learnt more here than anywhere else and many of my preconceived ideas are fading as a result of being involved on this forum.
I'm sorry I judged you too harshly
To be honest many of the posts are interesting. I disagree here and there . I was merely pointing out that we all have a social responsibility, I didn't mean to come across as self righteous I was just trying to emphasise that ministry doesn't always involve trying to win souls. Whereas you can learn from other sites etc I like the interaction, I find it stimulating. I have learnt more here than anywhere else and many of my preconceived ideas are fading as a result of being involved on this forum.
I'm sorry I judged you too harshly
It is no problem Veritas
Were all here to learn at then end of it all
I understand and agree with interaction being much more stimulating than just reading off sites
Thank You for your response.
:)
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