folks in Bethnal Green n Bow

[sunni]

Salams

well election is next week!!!!!
so those living in bethnal green n bow, vote respect! a wasted vote u may say?
no its not! not in this case! whoes better than Oona the fish???

i examined the tory candidates n the lib dems, n believe u me :nono: call me aherm mean, rude, all them fancy words, but they have only stood up for prestigue! not that i like politicians, but comparing the candidate for the tories, well, George will eat him!

Check out what the tory bloke has to say, in a doc produced by Iqra media on 'Muslims and politics' George Galloway may sound a little arrogant there in that doc, by like it or not, he is one person representing Muslims, the other two? well... :tapedshut

m'salaama

[kosovan]

Supporting Muslims by backing the Serbs .
Fine
represents Muslims with his financial background.
If you want to think that .
Fine

[sunni]

Supporting Muslims by backing the Serbs .
Fine
represents Muslims with his financial background.
If you want to think that .
Fine


well watch that doc on muslims n politics, listen to what he has got to say

[Yahya]

represents Muslims with his financial background.

Fine


What do you mean?

[kosovan]

The fact that he raised money on the basis it would be spent on medicine for Iraq and spent it on his wife,chauffeur,hotel bills and air flights.
He is a spiv.

[Yahya]

The fact that he raised money on the basis it would be spent on medicine for Iraq and spent it on his wife,chauffeur,hotel bills and air flights.
He is a spiv.

Easy to say when you can't be sued for libel.

Those that say such things openly end up in court, and they lose.

A Muslim shouldn't spread slander, even about an unbeliever.

[kosovan]

George has already admitted all of this.
Did you not know that.
Do you want proof?

[Yahya]

If he admitted it he wouldn't he be in jail?

[kosovan]

There is nothing illegal about saying you are raising money to buy medicine and then spending it on your wife,chauffeur,hotel bills and air flights.
But you should never vote for someone who does it.

[Yahya]

Yes there is. It's fraud. If you raise money for a cause and spend unreasonable amounts on admin. wages etc., you'd get in trouble with the Charities Commision.

Could you provide a link to a relevant news story?

[kosovan]

But thats why he never registered the Mariam Appeal as a charity.
He's not stupid

[UmmZakariya]

kosovan pls stop making libellous comments.

[kosovan]

Its not Libel.
I'll post some direct quotes

[kosovan]

Quote from the Times

April 23rd 2003

Mr Galloway made a promise to potential donors. He wrote on House of Commons paper pledging that, after paying for Mariam’s treatment in a Glasgow hospital, the rest of the money would go to medical aid for Iraqi children. In fact, according to the Register of Members’ Interests, Mr Galloway spent the Mariam Appeal’s cash on 14 foreign trips to 15 countries, including eight visits to Iraq.


Full article
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-655974,00.html

From the Charites Commission Report

12. The Commission has been unable to obtain all the books and records of the Appeal. Mr Galloway, the first Chairman of the Appeal, has stated that this documentation was sent to Amman and Baghdad in 2001 when Fawaz Zuriekat became Chairman of the Appeal. Mr Galloway has informed the Commission that this documentation is no longer under the control of the original trustees of the Appeal and cannot be located by them. Mr Galloway confirmed that the Appeal did not produce annual profit and loss accounts or balance sheets.

14. The Commission established that Dr Amineh Abu-Zayyad and Stuart Halford, two of the original trustees, received unauthorised benefits in the form of salary payments from the Appeal’s funds.

(The former is Galloways wife)

[Yahya]

I'll admit I knew nothing about this. It's all looks a bit dodgy.

But I can't say I'm surprised.

Politicians often have their hands in the till. MPs fact finding missions often involve free hand-outs, even at the expense of charities they sponsor.

It may convince me that Galloway's a spiv and untrustworthy, but not that Labour has OUR best interests at heart or that I should vote for Oona (not that I live in Bethnal Green). I thiink the election's a one off event. I have no loyalty to any politician.

By the way, Kosovan, this is way off topic, but could you tell me your opinion of the current situation in Bosnia and Kosovo. Perhaps you could start a thread elsewhere if you have time. These place were once at the heart of Muslims concerns, now there hardly mentioned.

[sunni]

[QUOTE=kosovan]Quote from the Times

is that ur evidence?

[br ash]

"Kosvan and Nasith” world centres on Oona Phoona. OK you are one of her lemmings, so what?. It is not a big thing being a Oona Phoon Leeeming. Do not get big headed about it. :D:D:D


TRUE FACTS Regarding Galloway the Mariam Appeal from the Guardian Newspaper


Galloway's Mariam Appeal is cleared of breaking charity law

Tash Shifrin
Tuesday June 29, 2004
The Guardian

The MP George Galloway has been cleared by the Charity Commission of doing anything wrong in running the Mariam Appeal, which he set up to pay for the treatment of an Iraqi girl suffering from leukaemia.

Mr Galloway, Independent Labour MP for Glasgow Kelvinside, said the commission's year-long inquiry was a waste of time and money and had been politically motivated by the attorney general, Lord Goldsmith, because of the MP's prominent opposition to the war on Iraq.

New Labour had "misused" the charity commission, he said.

A member of the public complained to the attorney general's office in April last year, in response to a newspaper article, alleging that money donated to the appeal had been used to pay Mr Galloway's travel expenses.

The Charity Commission's director of operations, Simon Gillespie, said: "The commission's thorough inquiry found no evidence to suggest that the large amounts of money given to the Mariam Appeal were not properly used."

The commission's final report, published yesterday, confirmed that it would not be taking any further action in the case.

The inquiry was unusual because the Mariam Appeal was not a registered charity. Set up in 1998 to fund treatment for leukaemia for Mariam Hamza, four, it also campaigned to lift the sanctions against Iraq.

The inquiry found that the objects set out in the appeal's constitution were charitable and that given the level of income raised, it should have been registered as a charity.

But the commission concluded that the appeal's founders "were unaware that they had created a charity" and had received legal advice that it was not one.

The report also says: "The commission is satisfied that Mariam's treatment and aftercare were funded by the appeal in furtherance of its purposes."

Although some of the appeal's activities were political - in particular a campaign to end the sanctions in Iraq - the commission concluded that these were consistent with the appeal's overall aims.

The trustees "could reasonably have formed the view" that lifting the sanctions would have enabled the treat ment of sick children, the report says.

The inquiry found that two of the appeal's trustees had been paid salaries from appeal funds.

This would constitute "unauthorised benefits" whether or not the trust was charitable.

But the commission concluded that the services provided by the paid trustees, Dr Amineh Abu-Zayyad - Mr Galloway's wife - and Stuart Halford, were "of value to the appeal".

There was "no evidence of bad faith on behalf of any member of the appeal's executive committee", none of whom was aware that the payments were unauthorised.

There was "no evidence that the funds of the appeal were misapplied", other than the unauthorised payments, the inquiry found.

Mr Galloway, who stood in the European elections for the Respect coalition after being expelled from Labour last year for his opposition to the war in Iraq, said he was delighted that the inquiry had cleared him and the other appeal trustees of any wrongdoing.



Salaam


ash

[UmmZakariya]

i thought so this was plastered all over news and he was cleared....i doubt that satisfies Kosovan tho

[kosovan]

Mr Galloway made a promise to potential donors. He wrote on House of Commons paper pledging that, after paying for Mariam’s treatment in a Glasgow hospital, the rest of the money would go to medical aid for Iraqi children.

No medicine.Lots of expenses for george and his Wife.
Liar and Spiv

[br ash]

i thought so this was plastered all over news and he was cleared....i doubt that satisfies Kosovan tho

Sister you know i know that Galloway has been cleared. Oona Phonna lemming sprat out this kind of garbage, but then again what can you expect form a Oona Phoona Lemming:D:D:D:D


Salaam


ash

[sunni]

Salams

so what is it that kosovan doesnt understand about goerge? isnt everything cleared???? or u just stubborn? n want oona (phoona as br ash puts it :D ) to win n kill more people?, n please dont be fooled about her promise to help the muslims of iraq to get rid of saddam blah blah...more death is occuring than ever before!

[kosovan]

So why vote for a man who sided with the Serb Police in Kosovo?

[Brother F]

You are calling for us to vote for a person who supported the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and supported the Serbs in Kosovo???

You want to vote to a Socialist Party, who deny the existance of Allah (SWT)???

You want to support a person who supported Saddam Hussain:

"Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability."
George Galloway MP, January 1994 – meeting with Saddam Hussein

He encourages gay marriages, and gay adoption and wants to lower the age of gay sex to 16! Go on vote for him, but then don't complain when your son becomes gay, because you supported it with your vote!

and they support easy abortions:

Respect Party conference resolutions no 38:

The right to self determination of every individual in relation to their religious [or non-religious] beliefs as well as sexual choices. Respect therefore opposes any change in legislation that restricts abortion rights and defends the right to chose.

So then you can't complain when you daughter have sex before marriage, gets herself pregnant and gets an abortion :rolleyes:

Go ahead people, vote for Galloway! It seems like you would've voted for Abu Jahl if he was around today!!

[br ash]

You are calling for us to vote for a person who supported the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and supported the Serbs in Kosovo???

You want to vote to a Socialist Party, who deny the existance of Allah (SWT)???

You want to support a person who supported Saddam Hussain:

"Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability."
George Galloway MP, January 1994 – meeting with Saddam Hussein

He encourages gay marriages, and gay adoption and wants to lower the age of gay sex to 16! Go on vote for him, but then don't complain when your son becomes gay, because you supported it with your vote!

and they support easy abortions:

Respect Party conference resolutions no 38:

The right to self determination of every individual in relation to their religious [or non-religious] beliefs as well as sexual choices. Respect therefore opposes any change in legislation that restricts abortion rights and defends the right to chose.

So then you can't complain when you daughter have sex before marriage, gets herself pregnant and gets an abortion

Go ahead people, vote for Galloway! It seems like you would've voted for Abu Jahl if he was around today!!



First of all, all the loones from HT onwards also objected the war, to use your words you have just defended Oona Phoona., by just attacking Galloway ONLY. You are nothing but a joke.

you quoted the following "Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability."
George Galloway MP, January 1994 – meeting with Saddam Hussein

Look at all the Mujahdeens, which many HT and there ilk were congratulating to defend Sadam Hussain. So what does it make these Mujahdeen :thinking: Lunatics?. Many said we have come to defend Sadam. Fact.


You said He encourages gay marriages, and gay adoption and wants to lower the age of gay sex to 16! Go on vote for him, but then don't complain when your son becomes gay, because you supported it with your vote!

No body becomes gay, because they want to, there are gay, because they are gay. LOL@ Brother F

Changes in Law, is not going to make any difference, it happening.

But saying that, what are you doing to get the Conservative Muslim who is standing in Bethnal Green? Nothing LOL@ Brother F

Changes in the law will not effect us. There are more practising gays in Pakistan than in the UK, its all under ground. Parents can not do anything, there either.

In the Muslim community in the UK, no difference, its underground.

Last but not least, buy not voting for Galloway, is that going to prevent some son from becoming gay. Nope.

I have said many times, Brother F and his ilk read to many Taliban/HT comic books. They go on about gay issues, yet they are dealt by gays in the health service, in Schools, etc If you the unfortunate position of having to go to hospital, there is a good chance that a gay will be involved in one of the operating procedures. What do you do, before you have operation, I do not want to be operated by a gay.

When you go school, I do not want to be taught by a gay. Doubt it. You will be demanding it:D

If you find gay such an issue, which i do not believe that you do, you would be pestering your mommy and daddy to get you out of this country, ASAP.:D You would not want the education of such a country. You would not want to drink the water of such a country. Like a child you are going on about something that you do not mind. You could be wearing clothes designed by gays. Get a life.

What i find so amusing all these Muslims who are infected by the Gay virus, they love and take benefits, MONEY, which is also contributed by the gay community. Imagine that, you are willing to have education paid by gays. You are willing to have state benefits, part of the money that has come form the pockets of the gay community.

If you had one ounce of the faith in your statement, you would pack your bags right now, and leave the UK. If we on this forum hear form you again, we all know that you 100% approve that gays paying towards your education and any benefits that you receive directly or indirectly :D


Salaam


Ash

[br ash]

Brother F, can you show me how Galloway supported the Serbs in Kosavo?

I know that George Galloway was not elected in the House of Parliament, back in the days of Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan. Could you provide statement where he supported the Soviet Invasion.



Salaam

Ash

[kosovan]

Anyway, Galloway cannot be bothered to turn up to Parliament so effectively Bethnal Green would be voting to be without an MP.

[br ash]

Anyway, Galloway cannot be bothered to turn up to Parliament so effectively Bethnal Green would be voting to be without an MP.

Roger Godsief, Jewish and Pro Zionist MP, also pro war, voted Against the war, why because he said clearly his constituents did not want to support the war. He listened to his constituents. Do you hear any Muslim organisation saying that he should be removed, because of the Iraq war. NOPE. Why because he listened to his constituents.

Oona only voted to get into Blairs good books, so that she could climb the political ladder. Just after the war, Blair awarded his poodle, OOna Phoona to be PPS. :D:D:D


Salaam


Ash

[respect]

kosovan, why when you can't answer a question do you move on to another topic ....

Brothers/Sisters - don't get sucked into the spin from kosovan ... he's a die hard labour supporter .... he needs help :help:

[kosovan]

Not help from George.
Although as I don't need medicine but fancy a nice holiday maybe I do need a bit of "help" from the honest man himself.

[abdulmojid]

br ash and comic books :/

[nishath_786]

He is quoted as saying that the war in Kosovo was 'an internal matter'. This is in his autobiog.

He was interviewed by Iqra media recently and said he was against the Mujahids in Afghanistan as they were supported by America. I think he alludes to this in his autobiog as well.

BrAsh - On a separate(ish) issue, he NEVER attacks Oona over Palestine, only the war. Why? Because HE KNOWS that she is pro-Palestinian.