Independent MP's

[prayfortheummah]

Assalaamwalaikum,

I would like to to know your views on the following question.

If you have an independent standing in your constituentcy and his 1 major policy is to highlight the torture and suffering happening today to our muslim brothers and sisters around the world including britain(barbar ahmed). is it not our duty to vote for him.
He has witnessed this torture happening and raised his concerns with the foreign office(Jack Straw) in which the reply was "As long as the torture is not being done by the british we shouldn't get involved". this brave man was sacked from his post as a british ambassidor and has come to the small town of Blackburn to take revenge on his former employer the not so honourable zionist jack straw, and his henchmen, adam patel and ibrahim master and the rest of his cronies who line up for peerages.
For the very short time I have known Craig Murray this man has integrity and genuine concern for the less fortunate who do not have a voice .

The choice is zionist labour
zionist conservative
zionist lib dems (look up simon hughes)
or craig murray
wheres do you put the X

[kosovan]

Wasted vote.
Go ahead.

[Yahya]

A vote for Labour is a wasted vote if they take it for granted.

[Sayf]

vote for a winning party which can win, we can't really vote for those people who cannot win.

[NNA2001]

we live in a system which corrupts people. esp. if you are involved in the govt. areas(parliament) is very dangerous! they will ask 'should we support the war in iraq?'-either you have to say 'yes' or you have to be 'silent'. if you say something else which will contradict their laws there and then you will be sacked/arrested/banned etc. therefore as we know there is always shaytan with us - he will corrept you and you will hold onto your prestige and power.

[Sayf]

So is this your post to tell Muslims not to get involved in Politics? To me it all comes down to how strong is your iman. But if you are going to give this example for people not to get involved in Politics then shame on you as you forgot the No bit in 'should we support the war in iraq?'

[khilafah4islam]

Got my polling card in the post, thats going straight to the bin

[br ash]

So is this your post to tell Muslims not to get involved in Politics? To me it all comes down to how strong is your iman. But if you are going to give this example for people not to get involved in Politics then shame on you as you forgot the No bit in 'should we support the war in iraq?'

People who remain silent, who do not vote, are no different to the war mongers. They are the same.

Its like someone killing members of your family in a far distance land, and all you do is shout as load as possible, then you go home feeling that you done your bit. Then some one else kills more members of your family, you start to shouting again, then you go off home. You keep on repeating the same behaviour every time, like Lemmings, yet you do nothing about it, other than keeping in power the very people who are killing the members of your family member.

The worse thing is, you many such brother and sisters prefer taking harm income (state benefits), because this means more to them than anything, plus there British Passport of course.


Salaam

Ash

[Sayf]

Got my polling card in the post, thats going straight to the bin Please throw the British Passport in the Bin aswell :D looool, such a beautiful day for you to do that akhi.

[prayfortheummah]

my intention was not to persuade people not to vote. quite the opposite actually, if you'd like to google craig murray see what comes up, i think he stands up for the muslims more than the muslim peers. and as for the binning of your ballot papers, do you want to live under a dictatorship or be part of a governing process

[NNA2001]

So is this your post to tell Muslims not to get involved in Politics? To me it all comes down to how strong is your iman. But if you are going to give this example for people not to get involved in Politics then shame on you as you forgot the No bit in 'should we support the war in iraq?'

well, i believe that Allah(swt) is only worthy to make the law. therefore, it is haraam for muslims to take part in the kufr system which constitutes the law. this is just the basic and should be the end of story.

but some people who know all these but sell islam for some worldly 'interests' based on their reality, i gave my example to show the true reality not the reason for muslims not to vote.
just for those ppl who justify themselves having firm imaan and be our role models, look at their existence. the two MPs we have now in the parliament what was their response to the war in Iraq? and why?

But if you are going to give this example for people not to get involved in Politics then shame on you as you forgot the No bit in 'should we support the war in iraq?'
i myself ofcourse was 'NO' to the 'support the war in iraq'.
from the sincerity of our heart we should remember these common interests/benefits we can achieve going through the alternative way-the halal way.

[NNA2001]

my intention was not to persuade people not to vote. quite the opposite actually, if you'd like to google craig murray see what comes up, i think he stands up for the muslims more than the muslim peers. and as for the binning of your ballot papers, do you want to live under a dictatorship or be part of a governing process

i hope you get some idea:
''Eight out of 10 voters do not trust politicians to tell the truth, a new poll conducted for the BBC suggests.
And 87% of the 1,000 adults quizzed by ICM for BBC News 24 said politicians did not deliver what they promised.

The poll comes after Foreign Secretary Jack Straw predicted trust would be "the key choice" at the next election.

Both the Tories and the Lib Dems are keen to emphasise a perceived lack of trust in Tony Blair, following his claims over Iraqi weapons.

But according to the BBC poll, 61% said the issue of trust made no difference to whether or not they would vote at the next election, widely expected on 5 May.

The poll also looked at what lay behind the lack of trust in politicians.

Some 87% said politicians did not keep the promises they made before elections, while 92% said they never gave "a straight answer".

Just under three-quarters of respondents (73%) said politicians had shown themselves to be dishonest too often.

Mr Straw told activists in Blackburn on Thursday that voters would have to decide at the next election which party "best deserves" their "future trust".

"That in the end is the key choice at the next election."

'Dodgy dossier'

He acknowledged that the public had lost faith in Labour, but suggested it could persuade people to "reinvest their trust with us" if the party could overcome Tory attempts to spread cynicism in politics.

The Conservatives are keen to highlight the trust issue.

During his response to Gordon Brown's Budget statement on Tuesday, Michael Howard compared the chancellor's figures to the prime minister's claims about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.


The Lib Dems are also keen to highlight the trust issue, with Charles Kennedy has claiming voters had a "fundamental lack of trust in the prime minister".

And the Green Party unveiled a billboard opposite the Palace of Westminster accusing the government of lying over the Iraq war.

'Battle of words'

Former education secretary Estelle Morris told BBC News 24 that there was a "real problem of trust" between the public and the politicians.

She said she did not feel her own colleagues could be trusted, but suggested the "three-cornered relationship" between the press, politicians and the public had a hand in the issue.

The public was often turned off by sitting on the sidelines in "the battle of words" between the politician and the journalist, she added.

Lib Dem foreign affairs spokesman Menzies Campbell said the Iraq war had hit trust in politicians hard.

"Issues of war and peace, life and death do have a very damaging effect on the credibility of politicians".

Martin Bell, who won the Tatton seat from Tory Neil Hamilton on anti-corruption platform, said politicians often failed to see themselves as others did.

"We need public figures we trust to tell the truth and who can see themselves as others see them."

[NNA2001]

if you'd like to google craig murray see what comes up, i think he stands up for the muslims more than the muslim peers. and as for the binning of your ballot papers, do you want to live under a dictatorship or be part of a governing process
''he stands up for the muslims''

i tell you brother/sister, if you believe in this, we will talk about this in 4 years time inshaAllah, provided that i am alive.